Celtic Heroes

Yrck your looking at this all wrong. Rogues got the kill cause that's what they are ment for! They are ment to seriously decrease the time of bosses and do many interupts. So now mages ranger and Druids can all seriously decrease the time of. Bosses and if they have hear to go hand to hand aswell they can all interupt... Wtf!!!! What's the point of our rogue class at all?

I have not once said Druids are over powered. I do believe mages are though in all onesty. Druids shouldn't beable to beat warriors at dps which you managed to beat benbrook who has like 1.3-1.4k damage on a haste elix you should be on par not beat him. He has better dps hear then you really...

Yrck, it's strange.. You seem to think that Druids should be able to regularly out DPS rogues and they really shouldn't.

You act as if Rogues were in the spotlight during update 2.. And I agree they were.. As the best DPS class. That's how it should be.

To say Druids were useless is naive IMO. If you were in a half-organised clan then Druids/tanks would make a group and DPS make a seperate group, and then find a better way to share the drops such as a list of who gets what next.

Maybe I'm just a bit different when it comes to wasting plat items as I don't feel the need to when you can take without.

Rogues are different, they're not support, they don't want a support role, they want to be the top DPS as traditionally, they are.

Indirect is covered - as is tank... Why would we want to take another classes main role? What would be the point in a warrior if Rogues could tank BETTER than them?

Also - you don't have to go an extreme build... You keep the same stats and if other Druids around you have all buffs covered, all you need is Natures Touch anyway, and optionally Natures Breathe. Maxing these 2 out at 35/35 would leave you with 82 skill points if you were level 150. That's maxed Vines and Lightning with 14 skill points left over, but you could easily drop breathe for storms if needed.

Rogues have a main role and at the moment, others are too close to competing with it.. That's why they need a buff. I wouldn't exactly say they're underpowered, but the strength plateau and weakness of skills really don't help the matter.

Yrck, it's strange.. You seem to think that Druids should be able to regularly out DPS rogues and they really shouldn't.

You act as if Rogues were in the spotlight during update 2.. And I agree they were.. As the best DPS class. That's how it should be.

To say Druids were useless is naive IMO. If you were in a half-organised clan then Druids/tanks would make a group and DPS make a seperate group, and then find a better way to share the drops such as a list of who gets what next.

Maybe I'm just a bit different when it comes to wasting plat items as I don't feel the need to when you can take without.

Rogues are different, they're not support, they don't want a support role, they want to be the top DPS as traditionally, they are.

Indirect is covered - as is tank... Why would we want to take another classes main role? What would be the point in a warrior if Rogues could tank BETTER than them?

Also - you don't have to go an extreme build... You keep the same stats and if other Druids around you have all buffs covered, all you need is Natures Touch anyway, and optionally Natures Breathe. Maxing these 2 out at 35/35 would leave you with 82 skill points if you were level 150. That's maxed Vines and Lightning with 14 skill points left over, but you could easily drop breathe for storms if needed.

Rogues have a main role and at the moment, others are too close to competing with it.. That's why they need a buff. I wouldn't exactly say they're underpowered, but the strength plateau and weakness of skills really don't help the matter.

i seem to think druids should be able to do decent dps, and finally a good geared druid with extreme stats (no buffs or vit) can beat some regular geared rogues (frozen dagg, chest, legs, haste gloves, blood helm, good offhand, prince ammy of 75 dmg or earthstone one of 100 dmg) on several occasions, unless they heal as well. rogues with earthstone, 15 pierce neck, agg brace and 7+ pierce brace is no match for me tho. they destroy me. i have been lucky on agg so far with minimal deflections and one time a 11 magic lure and one time a 35 magic lure i believe. both times also a pierce lure of 30 ish was there. housecat was not on haste elix, just gloves, so no extra attack from gloves nor extra speed from lix, i prolly had luck with random number geenrator while housecat didnt. 2nd time i had 35 magic lure, and again not too much delfections, presmagic had c=wrong rings on first 20-30% of kill, wizardonion had h2h dmg, rangers where builds with too much vit IMO and only rogue in grp (redishwolf) was lvl 150 with frozen gear, not even earthstone nor agg brace nor 7+ pierce dmg brace nor good dmg neck. so yea i can outdps a not so good rogue, woohoo. can i outpds brookie on no haste with 30 magic lure and 30 pierce lure? no way, maybe if im lucky with generator again, but i am not so close so id have to be lucky while brookie being unlucky, can i beat presmagic if he has right gear on and tries his best with pots etc? no not at all, hes way too good. can i beat a ranger of lvl 156 with great gear? yes cuz his build is mostly vit, due to the solo lvling he does on mages in cave. believe me there was nothing special about my kills, but it does show a good dps druid with great gear and build could give brookie without combo lix a good fight, with combo again brookie wins. also on short fights we druids cant get kills easy, as my dps on short fights is big time decreased if any of my skills deflect, so 1-2 time deflect costs me kill on all low bosses pretty much. only ow bosses easier to get kill, as i can make up my deflections then.

and honestly ppl rather saw my rogue then my druid online in update 2. to quote a member of clan epic at the time: we have plenty of pots, just need the dps to get kills. so what i did was get dps. and druid didnt count so i had to lvl a rogue, was even given some elixers for free if i chose to lvl rogue instead of druid.
rogues did not just do their job in update, they could get kill over ppl 10 lvls up on a boss 10 lvls up, that should not be possible. would mean a rogue lvl 140 gets kill on agg instead of a ranger 150... shouldnt be. that was the case in update 2 pretty much... rogues where obviously OP and needed a cut. druids where useless as many clans had a few plat spenders, who tanked all the time and didnt need a solid druid to back them up. in the update they needed us druids, i was so happy for that already, and finding out druids can do good dps if they lucky with generator made my month.

I agree. Druids should have decent DPS.. Enough to help when levelling.

Rogues should have excellent DPS and the problem with a Rogue is, Earthstone is limited. If it was easier (store bought or permanent boss), for a Rogue to get good DPS gear, then I could understand that a Druid should be able to Out DPS a Rogue in weak DPS gear, but not everyone has access to Earthstone.

DPS build warriors need Frenzy to be fixed and with that, should be about 30% off the DPS of a decent Rogue. Mages should have incredible in-direct DPS, but shouldn't have great direct DPS, IMO. They should have amazing burst skills and ultimately over time, be about 25% off the DPS of a decent rogue. Rangers should have good DPS.. That's the thing about Rangers, they should be 'Good' at everything, but not great at anything. All-in-all, a ranger with equal gear to a Rogue should be dealing about 80% of that Rogues damage. Druids really are the most needed class in the game. I'd put them on the same level as Warriors, as they both have permanent established roles and no one will ever be as good as them in their Primary Role. The same is with Mages, however, 1 mage is plenty for a boss, and sometimes 2-3-4 Druids are needed for bosses.