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Re: its sad...

#12
Neogie my dear, please dont alwas think about ur ego. where are u going with that clan? I know its having fun with friends bla bla bla, all rubbish.
I don't pretend I know exactly what Neogie is thinking, but I understand that some people prefer to play the game with people they like and have fun playing with. If a person's only motivation to join or stay in a clan is to get loot, then they will never be truly happy. There is never enough loot and if you put all these types of people together then there will bound to be infighting, disorganization, resentment and eventually disbandment. Not saying that's how it is in Equinox, I have no idea how things go there but don't bash Neogie because she split off and went on her own. I did the very same thing with a dozen people that split off from the then strongest clan in Morrigan - New Dawn and formed Avalon.
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Re: its sad...

#13
Neogie my dear, please dont alwas think about ur ego. where are u going with that clan? I know its having fun with friends bla bla bla, all rubbish.
I don't pretend I know exactly what Neogie is thinking, but I understand that some people prefer to play the game with people they like and have fun playing with. If a person's only motivation to join or stay in a clan is to get loot, then they will never be truly happy. There is never enough loot and if you put all these types of people together then there will bound to be infighting, disorganization, resentment and eventually disbandment. Not saying that's how it is in Equinox, I have no idea how things go there but don't bash Neogie because she split off and went on her own. I did the very same thing with a dozen people that split off from the then strongest clan in Morrigan - New Dawn and formed Avalon.
Thanks for the comment Aileron,
As u know Neogie and doo meaned alot for many peeps in MD, I will take ur comment as an advice but I wanna add that a chief isn't specially good as a chief, neo wasn't the best chief but the fact that she meaned alot for peeps made her chief. You can see that in real life too, difference between intelligent politician and those who know how to speak to the people even if the context isn't very intressting. I don't blame neo much just the fact that she was to ego in the moments we needed to stay together, I know it was hard with doo and I know it will automatically have an influence on game even if u don't. What can I say? Nothing much after all, I'm sure she could have do her best after all. She has to many influence on players and that's what I'm trying to tell people, focus on ur own in first intention and dont let someone else choose for ur choices. Same with Avalon ur clan, peeps have to much respect for ya guys. Damn do what u gotta do and don't look at others otherwise it will be indeed impossible. Many factors play when a clan falls.

Thanks!
Bobotten
Morrigan
lvl 191+
Ranger

Re: its sad...

#14
Ok, second post ever... Lol. I understand what you are saying. The truth is, a clan has to feel like family. Doesnt matter the size or power. This world is so worked up about Ava, they set the goals too high from the start. I was in equinox and got trashed and put down because someone saw my app to Ava. Not to mention the arena thing. Same thing happened to me Just, i feel you. You put too many childish egos in one clan and nobody wins. I could not believe the disrespect I saw to other clanmates in my short time there. For me, I have to feel a clan, breathe the clan. When I started playing over a year ago, I set my sights on joining marath and then Ava. I felt real good in Marath, and passed on applying to Ava while Marath was still going. I was loyal and paid my dues there. Made promises I always kept. And I lost. Lost much. Whole sets of armor, lux items, etc because I only wanted the clan as a whole to succeed. Now its gone, I have one goal left to accomplish before I set new ones. People should learn to cooperate, not hate.

Re: its sad...

#16
Ok, second post ever... Lol. I understand what you are saying. The truth is, a clan has to feel like family. Doesnt matter the size or power. This world is so worked up about Ava, they set the goals too high from the start. I was in equinox and got trashed and put down because someone saw my app to Ava. Not to mention the arena thing. Same thing happened to me Just, i feel you. You put too many childish egos in one clan and nobody wins. I could not believe the disrespect I saw to other clanmates in my short time there. For me, I have to feel a clan, breathe the clan. When I started playing over a year ago, I set my sights on joining marath and then Ava. I felt real good in Marath, and passed on applying to Ava while Marath was still going. I was loyal and paid my dues there. Made promises I always kept. And I lost. Lost much. Whole sets of armor, lux items, etc because I only wanted the clan as a whole to succeed. Now its gone, I have one goal left to accomplish before I set new ones. People should learn to cooperate, not hate.

I understand but this topic isn't made to comment all the bad things man. I know them I think, remember stay with the topic don't want this to be a list of all what was wrong...
But after all I understand what you are saying, I was there with u :)

Thanks for post
Bobotten
Morrigan
lvl 191+
Ranger

Re: its sad...

#17
I would not presume to tell others how to run a clan but I have to say , the rule of kicking people because they apply to Avalon is one of the most counter productive and silliest rules I have ever seen . It seems a bit controlling and skullish to me :)
Personally I don't have that much influence in clan to make that kinda choices, they made by gens and chief. But elim this shows again that a clan can never have a unit as a group if there is no unit as an individual player, a unit with he's choices and engagements, be 100% behind the clan and 1000% behind urself, otherwise it won't work...

Thanks for commenting elim!
Bobotten
Morrigan
lvl 191+
Ranger

Re: its sad...

#18
Ok second post for me ever also Grannus lol, for me this game has brought me a lot of enjoyment and believe it or not it's my first mmo rpg and have learned a lot since I first started a month after CH came out I agree with Emil it is sad that people can't put aside there personal differences for the big picture my goal after I escaped Golgatha was to do my best at the attempt of bringing good players together and creating a friendly but strong clan. Now don't get me wrong I am friends with just about everyone in Ava but you have to see that Ava does have complete control of morrigan and not to bash you guys at all but I am a huge fan of competition in my eyes to have two powerful clans friendly with each other but give each other a good fight at bosses there is no better fun than that in this game for me. Now after making several attempts at this and seeing one persons outlook demolish a clans intentions has humbled me, it's really taken the wind out of my sails so to speak I find myself no longer caring about bringing competition to morrigan and that's is against all I have stood for which is truly a sad thing for me. I've always tried my best to keep personal life drama and opinions out of things but I must say for those who don't are on a completely different page than I, so that being said gl to your clan Neogie hope the best for you just hate to have seen a wonderful thing turn to ash because of ones mind not being open enough to follow through with what was said your intentions were in the first place. Thx for listening to my rant they don't come often lol

Re: its sad...

#19
Ok second post for me ever also Grannus lol, for me this game has brought me a lot of enjoyment and believe it or not it's my first mmo rpg and have learned a lot since I first started a month after CH came out I agree with Emil it is sad that people can't put aside there personal differences for the big picture my goal after I escaped Golgatha was to do my best at the attempt of bringing good players together and creating a friendly but strong clan. Now don't get me wrong I am friends with just about everyone in Ava but you have to see that Ava does have complete control of morrigan and not to bash you guys at all but I am a huge fan of competition in my eyes to have two powerful clans friendly with each other but give each other a good fight at bosses there is no better fun than that in this game for me. Now after making several attempts at this and seeing one persons outlook demolish a clans intentions has humbled me, it's really taken the wind out of my sails so to speak I find myself no longer caring about bringing competition to morrigan and that's is against all I have stood for which is truly a sad thing for me. I've always tried my best to keep personal life drama and opinions out of things but I must say for those who don't are on a completely different page than I, so that being said gl to your clan Neogie hope the best for you just hate to have seen a wonderful thing turn to ash because of ones mind not being open enough to follow through with what was said your intentions were in the first place. Thx for listening to my rant they don't come often lol
+1 only adds what Im saying
Thanks for the comment jay :-)
Bobotten
Morrigan
lvl 191+
Ranger

Re: its sad...

#20
My turn.

This came about because Marath fell ok, and all of my relationship with doo was on public view. Mistake!  We make them no matter what age we are! What Marath was with doo can't be for me.. Yes call me selfish!  However, I did then think of my clan. The mood in Marath was always low after doo left as people had the hope of him coming back - and thats not going to happen and things were starting to go stagnant with bosses, lvling and ppl wanting to log on.. I did think serious tho on what their needs were and i wanted them to stick together. So the merger idea came about. We tried it, tried to work it and things did not work out... and im not going into detail about that tho as I respect what tried to happen. But right now, what I have is mine.. not doo's, not a merger, it's mine for who wants to enjoy with me. For my online mates. I never asked ppl to join me, I never wanted Equinox to fall, never my intention. But i gave it a chance.. Now, I dont expect any player to stay in a situation where they don't feel comfortable also. Clans don't own chars emil. They dont own the rights of who ppl wana play with or if they wana go.. no matter what goal is in mind..  and abt my ego? Not sure what u mean there little buddy but I don't give a rats ass what anybody thinks of me or a rats ass if I don't get arragoth for another year to be honest.. but as long as I feel comfortable who im with and the players of the clan im in are treated all fair with respect due, that's what keeps me playing!
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