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Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#51
Solo leveling a druid is easy! It just takes a little spell called howling winds :) and a proper build around it.
+1

I think the only real bummer fer druids is stacking cash. Im full support, and I like it, but being full support I cant as easily mob around killing the lower lv bosses fer money. (now I just have a second device that I play a burly warrior) But Imagine a new way to get cash. A spell with a 15 minute duration, 5-10 minute cool down, 30 second cast time that costs around 2000 mana with effects like an extremely weak super combo potion (except the xp boost). Once you max it out at 35 it could be good enough to start to charge people fer a hit.

Plus to move even farther from the DPS, I think the frozen totems auto attack should instead be an auto buff.(Cus lets face it, even if you are a DPS Druid your DPS isnt coming from your weapon. I've had my frozen totem for about a month shy of update 3s release and have never seen it proc) Turn it on in combat and it heals X amount of life per tick among unlimited possibilities of Buffs...

...In conclusion if you want DPS be one of the other 4 classes.
IslaSerena 191 Druid (Elementals) Belenus

Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#52
Solo leveling a druid is easy! It just takes a little spell called howling winds :) and a proper build around it.
You forgot to mention the huge amount of sigils that would also be required for this build. A dps build requires way more energy than a support build.
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Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#53
kk ive been mentioned in this thread a couple times now (i havent been on forums due to family being in hospital and other RL stuff, wich also delayed my dps druid guide plan, currently restarting it, will be out asap) so id figure id jump in. its easy. i have 400 energy sigils, wich is ok for support. i went dps just to see how far i could pull it. turns out dps on druids works good, as long as you give up alll intention of soloing phs, bosses, mobs or whatever. i cant solo a 3 star red ph without using a pot. i do deal massive dps, but dont get anywhere near a solid rogues dps or even a warrior on haste when bossing. unless i have a magic lure and use pots. during ow bosses in a normal group i use easy 20 pots only to keep my energy up, while i have 400 energy sigils too! thats 3200 plat wasted almost cuz it doesnt help at all in a dps build. energy cost need to be cut. i can see this becoming a huge problem in uppdate, as cost only gnna increase, will we have to get at least 800 energy sigils to be support druids? thats how far it will get if not fixed. i already stated in a different post that the new offhand will have to have at least 200 energy regain will it be any normal regain for a support druid. there is too much gear giving focus and nature magic boost, wich ppl will obviously rather use then regain items. only regain a good geared druid uses is offhand grimoire. 15 regain with skills taking 300-400 energy as support and 600-800 energy as dps wont do any good. ive seen a druid with 1k energy sigils, he didnt use much less pots then me being full dps on an ow boss. so yes, energy needs to be cut at least. the magic lure on druids would be cool, as i stand no chance versus well geared rogues. only reason i got agg kills is cuz i had magic lures. one fight i had a magic lure of 11/35, wich already increased my dps enough to outdps the 2nd best rogue on our server at the time. im absolutely certain if a druid had magic lure but then nerfed, so it is not as good as mages, they could give the top dps a little bit of a challenge. unless they go on hast off course in wich case it will make dps better but not as good as a rogue on haste. without magic lure it is a real fight wether i get kill or amna (a warrior)... with macig lure i can get it if the magic lure is better then 10, depending on if there is a combo on or not. i would really like a solid magic lure, would make druids better at dpsing.

about the solo lvling: solo lvling as druid is not good at all. it costs tons of pots when on a combo even, need to max many many skills and doesnt give any decent xp at all. i kill maybe 5 dragons on an elixer, like wtf. nothing personal OTM but thats bs. the other day i did the following solo build: 300 vit, rest focus. my gear was crown of wizardry, rest all meteor. wep was agg book 2nd generation (150 focus 200 nature magic) and a grimoire offhand. a bracelet 5 lighting strike and 75 vit and 250 nature magic. a bracelet nature touch 5 and 75 focus and 350 nature magic. then i started the skills. well my armor was 270ish so i figured id have to max bark, with a +8 agg ring for it equipped. then i thought well ima need some set regain, so maxed embrace, with a royal ring for it. then figured well i gotta kill it sometime so maxed vines and strike, wearing royal vine ring and +7 strike ring. then i had some spare points and figured i could use those on touch to have heals in between. so i go and put on combo, buff myself and go kill a drag lvl 148, cool. i see hp going down im like nice good rate. out of nothing my health is almost gone ooh no i gotta pot so i use a pot. oh i see my embrace is off lets recast. i cast embrace: 3 times interrupted. finally embrace on pfew used another pot and got heartattack cuz i dont have many pots left. well lucky i am safe, get interrupted on nature touch couple times but manage to do it in time so my hp full again and drag almost half way killed, im like woohoo it works. and then oh no my embrace again, oh goes good this time thanks to a miss from drag. oh my bark is blinking i should recast, at this point i have 30 seconds to recast it. do i recast before it goes off? hell no! and in the mean time i use 2 pots, recast embrace and cast a touch too. thats 4 pots and over 2 mins gone. with some luck finally get bark on and pfew i can go on. oh no i cant cuz embrace off already, use another pot. 5 pots used. so i go and cast embrace wich i get on just in time. cast touch fast fast fast ima die ohh pfew in time. oh yea its still at half the drag i gotta kill it. recast vines strike all. okay okay lets go im on a roll now! goes good till 70-80% then embrace again uff no not again. used another pot. 6 pots. yes its on again i can finish. killed drag, 3 mins 20 secs gone. one drag down. on a super combo. 6 pots used. thats 5 drags on one super combo. 30 pots used on one super combo. 70 plat gone. how much xp did i get? i obviously only took the highest lvls, the 150s, 149s and 148s. ooh wow not even 1% up in bar... ok another combo. same story, more pots even this time. total of 150 plat gone. how much xp? maybe barely 1%. 150 plat, 30 minutes, 1% up in bar.

in a group i get 5% per elix almost. thats 9ish% in 30 mins. with maybe 10 idols used and one super knowledge. thats 50 plat. 50 plat, 9 times the xp, same time. u do the math. and did not even have to use pots only for hp, cuz when i do cover my hp good i need to have more energy to need to use many pots to get energy. i had over 4 k energy and almost 3k hp. conclusion: solo lvling doesnt work for druids. we are forced to lvl in groups. lvling a druid to 150 is much harder then lvling any other class to 150.
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Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#54
Solo leveling a druid is easy! It just takes a little spell called howling winds :) and a proper build around it.
You forgot to mention the huge amount of sigils that would also be required for this build. A dps build requires way more energy than a support build.
and the fact even with 1k energy sigils ud be using pots, as during battle u dont regain, so even with howling wind on u wont regain a bit except that 15 energy regain from the grimoire, wich i never even notice.
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Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#55
Yrck ill give you a tip to use paragraphs because i couldn't read your post was very rambled, when its so long paragraphs split it up so people can read bit at a time.

As for what your saying, you got kill on a aggy with 11/35 majic lure with also a 44/35 assassins lure being up over a rogue who has 2.8k+ attack and 1.2k+ damage even if he isn't on haste he should win that a druids main roll is support so even using plat as a druid they should be behind a super geared rogue. Your gear was no where near maxed yet you managed to get kill over a class who is close to maxed gear and as u say second best rogue in server.

No class can solo without pots bar ranger and maybe a mage with a few sigil, So that arguement is outta the window. Should a druid who is a healing and buffing class have a chose to also do indirect dps.... I dont think so. Druids dps is already far greater then it should be. They should be behind warriors in dps but only by a lil and miles behind every other class. Do i think druids are overpowered? No not at all i think they are underpowered slightly but not in dps terms in healing ability. I dont believe it should take as many druids as it does to heal on aggy and heal people in general. If the games wants to move forward in terms of aoe skills then druids need a buff in healing but as for there damage... Your lucky they are this strong as it is.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#56
Yrck ill give you a tip to use paragraphs because i couldn't read your post was very rambled, when its so long paragraphs split it up so people can read bit at a time.

As for what your saying, you got kill on a aggy with 11/35 majic lure with also a 44/35 assassins lure being up over a rogue who has 2.8k+ attack and 1.2k+ damage even if he isn't on haste he should win that a druids main roll is support so even using plat as a druid they should be behind a super geared rogue. Your gear was no where near maxed yet you managed to get kill over a class who is close to maxed gear and as u say second best rogue in server.

No class can solo without pots bar ranger and maybe a mage with a few sigil, So that arguement is outta the window. Should a druid who is a healing and buffing class have a chose to also do indirect dps.... I dont think so. Druids dps is already far greater then it should be. They should be behind warriors in dps but only by a lil and miles behind every other class. Do i think druids are overpowered? No not at all i think they are underpowered slightly but not in dps terms in healing ability. I dont believe it should take as many druids as it does to heal on aggy and heal people in general. If the games wants to move forward in terms of aoe skills then druids need a buff in healing but as for there damage... Your lucky they are this strong as it is.
i disagree. to be honest i was very lucky with the little deflections i had on both agg kills. barely any deflects so all hits where hit almost. yes the rogue was good and with extremely good gear, but i think a more dex build or willow ring would have worked better. the attack factor is underestimated IMO. on pyrus 3k attack works great, on agg need more. try a build with 3.5-4k attack see if its better. i think it will tbh. yes i got kill, i also got super lucky and think most rogues have a messed up build (no offence, im not a rogue myself so idk, on my alt i notice dex is quite good tho). like i said a nerfed magic lure on druids help big time. amna outdpses me on combo all the time, unless im very lucky with her missing much and me having no deflections. also depending what gear she uses. now im absolutely certain if druids had a nerfed magic lure they would be at least some usefull dps and be comparable with warrior dpsers on combo.

every class needs pots to solo lvl... thats right. every class gets same xp as druids do? 9 times better in group? believe me mages, rogues, rangers and warriors wont even get 5 times better in group, making druids very dependant on groups and waste lots of plat for 1% on their bar. a rogue with fast reflexes good and maybe a bit dex in its build would do hella better like that. would use less plat for 5 times the xp easy. id say thats OP. 150 plat for 1%, 50 plat for 9%... thats pretty much forcing druids to group or spend 27 times as much plat to lvl (not made up: 3 times plat for 9 times less xp).so 9 times 150= 1350 plat for 9% what would be 50 plat diff. yes i say thats forcing druids to group lvl, while other classes get the option of solo lvling way more effective.

and like i explained with my nice experience as a druid for 2 years now almost, energy cost is already ridicilously huge and will only increase in update, making it too hard to keep up with items, so ppl WILL need over 500 sigils to be support, forcing ppl to buy 4k plat and spend all of it on sigils cuz ppl cant do without anymore, unless they give up all intention of being an actual good druid.

also the magic lure was 11/35 yes from hector, but no the assas lure was not 44. firehead was the lure mage, who is not 150 yet. also he doestn have royal ring i belive just grand and fabled, making the assas lure 37/30, thats a 7 point difference. on top of that housecats build is IMO not good nuff. maybe cat missed a lot. maybe mispres and cat been not hitting for a bit. i was lucky with deflections like i said. and 2nd time there was a 30/30 magic lure and a 30/30 assas lure.
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Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#57
My guess was house cats gear but if you want me to calculate it

2 aggy dagger brace 1 dex 1 str

1 radiant attack ring

1 greater gloves

100 base dex

Lvl 155 at the time

You are looking at 3250 attack+

With 1150 damage around that sorta mark.

I dont care how good you hit etc with his gear and build he should beat you everytime you gear was no where near perfect! 44 strike vines and 35 storm its possible to get 50 in all them at once...

There is no way amna out dpses when housecat didnt. Amna equips are infact poor and i out dps amna by double weather she is on a combo or not. I believe housecat would do the same.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#58
Instead of arguing how druids are slightly / greatly over powered to their intended roles, the question should really be more on whether other classes skills are broken. There''s a reason why majority of rogues went full auto damage...

Also, a druid with lv 47 strike, lv 44 vines lv 39 storm touch along with lure of magic & 900 odd focus in itself can be considered a mage already.. But obviously, the lure of magic doesnt belong to druids..
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Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#59
I did not say they was overpowered i said they are lucky o have that much dps already. They need a boost in healing imo as they are not good enough at it. But they are lucky to have the dps they have already.

There is a main roll for each class imo

Warrior-tank and add control
Rogue-dps and ment to hit fast as hell
Mage-indirect dps with good nuke skills
Ranger- the all rounder has good support skills like bolas and heal aswell as good dps and semi fast shots (none should surpass anyone of the main classes at anything)
Druid- healer and buffs

When u step out of these zones for each class there should be some drastic downfalls and should not get close to a class which is made for that purpose. If my bandage wounds suddenly becomes as strong as touch and also as fast at acting and recasting then druids would be pissed. Why should a druid beat a rogue with the gear i have mentioned ever... Haste or no haste it shouldn't happen. The problem that will be coming which i have said for ages is they will fix skills great but the energy consumption of skills like sneak and quick and assasinate will make them worthless again. If druids are starting to see it think how rogues feel. We are talking 400 energy+ for a rogue

Now you will say put some point in focus... Now im gonna say that weakens my skills! Druids and mages are lucky in the fact that the same point they have to put in to beable to use there skills they manage to also make there skills stronger. See the problem yet? You think druids have ba energy problems become a rogue and become a skill rogue cause you have no idea. Not only do your skills suck you don't have the energy to use them and if you put point in focus so you do they suck even more.. That's why people go full auto we have no choice.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: ideas for adding some dps to druid

#60
Look, i totally get the classes intended roles. I really get it. Nowadays this get repeated like its the bible.

However, i still feel rogues full potential are not maxed. Even with 1300 dmg, there are still missed maxed potentials for a rogue whereas on casters, its pretty much maximized build. Hence, rogue in my opinion is still in developing stages due to broken skills whereas casters are a developed class.
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