Celtic Heroes

I have heard grumblings lately over the problem of 'kill stealing'. The concept of kill stealing however I not clearly defined (nor recognized) in any rules posted by the developers, and I suspect that many people have different views on what it is exactly...

In my opinion, it is common courtesy for people to avoid attacking a spawn that another player has already engaged in combat with (but I realize that it is bound to happen) and if you really want to 'share' a kill or 'help' someone, you should offer a group request before jumping in, if for no other reason but to show that you are not trying to elbow someone out.

That being said, I also hold the philosphy of 'if it isn't in your inventory, you don't own it.' i.e. no one owns the land man... By this philosophy, those who can capture aggro, hold it, and kill it - get it.

At the end of the day, I try hard to ensure that the people around me get a fair crack at spawns, and have gone out of my way to help others kills champs or other mission objectives (even bowed out of boss fights but supported so others could get discs) BUT, if something pops up that I need I will usually take a crack at it if it is not engaged in battle.

What I am asking I guess is this, do people feel they are entitled to all the enemies within a certain radius, or just those enemies they are fighting directly, or some other conception of spawn 'ownership' that I am not privy to? Because until we figure out how people 'own' a mob, then we can't rightfully accuse people of 'stealing' it.

Further, until the game mechanic changes, there is absolutely no way to remove this problem from the game - short of making everyone all get along and share everything to EVERYONE's satisfaction (fat chance of that). But that is another story altogether.

Please post your thoughts, I am curious to hear people's definitions...

It is all about the agro. If you have a mob attacking you, then it is yours. So if you attack a mob that attacks someone else it is a KS. If you want to help just heal the person or offer a group, then attack.

P.S.: You can help killing a mob if it is half way dead, so you don't have a chance to KS and don't need to ask.

i watch from the back side maybe heal depending on who it is an help heal but then again i watch an when they go down for the count an dont have revive an get sent back to a spawn point knowing they not gonna make it back in time im gonna kill the enemy if i can but i never jus go up and take a kill to kill steal is dishonorable and a very tasteless and cowardly way to get a enemy some one else has fought to slay whether it has been a minute or twenty minutes that goes for a group i will ask if i can join or i can help in any way needed

The way I see it.. a player or group of players is working on getting a kill on "creature x". Another player or group of players come along and finish "creature x" off, and receive the drop/exp. In my eyes, this is a kill steal. Even if drop/exp was not given, players still attempt to ks..

My thoughts are that if you are currently engaged with a mob then you "own" it. Other mobs in the area are fair game. This is true wether it is a boss or a one star annoyance mob. In the case of a tie, such as when I drop a bolas on something the same time someone drops a lure, I'll back off and let them have it.

If I see someone struggling I'll ask if the need help or offer a heal. There are plenty of spawns and another will come around soon enough. No need to be greedy.

Well, it depends really.

It has happened that I was throwing a fire bolt at an enemy while a ranger attacked it a wee bit earlier and got agro but due to my higher hit I got the kill. That's not a ks imo since it was not intentional. I usually offer to help them with the next mob by healing/fire cloak.

However, it has also happened to me that I've already engaged in battle with a high lvl mob, threw various lightning bolts at him and had his health almost half down when a warrior came around and finished him off with two blows and got the kill+xp.

So, my definition of KS: Stealing agro (and thus getting kill) from a mob that has already clearly been attacked. That would be at least 2-5 seconds battle. Imo the bet way to "help" someone is by healing and buffing them (natures embrace, bandages, cloak, poison weapon, etc.).

Hi xell, it's bubbles.. I totally agree. Once the mob has been engaged, then others should not attack unless asked... Buffs are always welcome by myself though. No one owns any mob, but its just game manners to leave that mob to the person already in battle.

If u wanna see ksing come to mabon can get pretty hairy lately on some boss fights lol but alls fair in love and war but it's aways fun

Haven and RIOT are going at it on mabon.. 2 strong clans and not enough bosses!