“There is a difference between what is wrong and what is evil. Evil is committed when clarity is taken away from what is clearly wrong, allowing wrong to be seen as less wrong, excusable, right, or an obligatory commandment of the Lord God Almighty.
Evil is bad sold as good, wrong sold as right, injustice sold as justice. Like the coat of a virus, a thin veil of right can disguise enormous wrong and confer an ability to infect others.”
― John Hartung
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#32Please stop using quotes that are out of context. I have put a few of your latest posts into a search bar and they came up to be quotes from numerous people. So unless you give reference you are technicaly plagiarizing. Not to mention the fact that they do not fit in with the subject at hand.Why is it that people with the most narrow of minds seem to have the widest of mouths?
If we all understood that eveyrone has their own battles to fight, insecurities to face, loves to contend and goals to attain, the world would be a gentler place.
If you didnt see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, don't invent it with your small mind & share it with your big mouth.
Now go noob I banish you and your trolling ways!
Gees, I am actually honored and disappointed.
I am honored that you actually spent time reading my posting and googling it.
Disappointed that you spent your precious time and life doing things that you consider as noobish and will banish it in your imagination and bother to reply at all.
Life and people. What an ironical situation that we face everyday and every time.
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#33Thank you for the comments, and I do respect your point of view. Here is how I see it. This quote is not about standing up for yourself, or having someone else stand up for you. Here is is a description from Wikipedia:
Now I know that he probably has not shown any signs of being anti-semitic in the past, but using this quote in this context reeks of dog whistle racism. Here is a definition of dog whistle racism for those not familiar:
Did Drizzt intentionally set out to be racist in his comment? It's possible that did not. It's possible that he simply misapropriated this quote, and the anti-semitism was unintentional. But in BadaBing, we address each instance of racism, intentional or not. By addressing it we can educate and prevent it from happening in the future.
This quote is actually about how people did nothing as the nazis rose to power, and maybe had they done something this tragedy would not have happened. If the OP wanted to choose a quote about standing up for people, there are thousands of quotes out there that he could have chosen. Ones that have nothing to do with nazis or the Holocaust. So in using this quote in the context that he did, he is saying that had someone done something that maybe BadaBing would not have become powerful. He is essentially equating us with nazis.“First they came…” is a famous statement and provocative poem attributed to pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the sloth of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
Now I know that he probably has not shown any signs of being anti-semitic in the past, but using this quote in this context reeks of dog whistle racism. Here is a definition of dog whistle racism for those not familiar:
The Holocaust was a terrible tradgedy that we should never forget, lest it be repeated. Drizzt incorrectly used this quote and appied it to a situation that was not at all related. In doing so he belittled the horrors that took place during the Holocaust, the lives that were lost, and the families that were torn apart. All because he equated the Holocaust with a video game.Dog-whistle politics is political messaging employing coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has an additional, different or more specific resonance for a targeted subgroup. The phrase is only ever used as a pejorative, because of the inherently deceptive nature of the practice and because the dog-whistle messages are frequently themselves distasteful, for example by empathising with racist attitudes. It is an analogy to dog whistles, which are built in such a way that their high-frequency whistle is heard by dogs, but is inaudible to humans.
Did Drizzt intentionally set out to be racist in his comment? It's possible that did not. It's possible that he simply misapropriated this quote, and the anti-semitism was unintentional. But in BadaBing, we address each instance of racism, intentional or not. By addressing it we can educate and prevent it from happening in the future.
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#34I think if he wanted to have a conversation about certain instances, that we could have had a civilized dialogue about it had he not inferred that my clan is full of nazis.First off drizzit you and I are pretty decent of friends i have known him a long while i truely dont belive he was intending to be racist he just hates to see a bully and sometimes bada has bully type characteristics. I belive he just wanted to stand up for a player who should get a little more respect then that and who was is a good guy and friend . I think ppl on forums tend to read into the posts too deep and really shouldn't care so much . Goodies your a level headed guy from how i interpreted it the quote itself wasnt racist i think the meaning behind the quote was "stand up for something or you will fall for anything"
I think that if he meant to use the quote "stand up for something or you will fall for anything", then he should have done so. Sadly he did not, and he equated the genocide of a people with a guy getting booted from a clan for taking advantage of the clan's trust. This guy Drizzt was allegedly "standing up for", I have no problem with him as a person. In this case he did not uphold the ideals of our clan, and therefore was asked to leave. But he's a good guy, who at some point may want to rejoin us, or maybe he will not. Either way, I wish him the best of luck.
Now I may be mistaken, but I heard that this person Drizzt was "standing up for" was also booted from Uskoci in the past. We let Uskoci take care of their clan business without running to the forums to call them nazis. I would appreciate it if Uskoci would do the same for us.
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#35Upon reading your posts I instantly realised they were quotes. I did some research on a few of them as I was intrigued by your choices. I must say that you have a very interesting taste for quotes. I have to put it out there that you've found quite a few good quotes and I have book marked a couple for future use. Yet that doesn't stop the fact that it is being used with the soul purpose of "trolling" which is why I made the comment that I did.Please stop using quotes that are out of context. I have put a few of your latest posts into a search bar and they came up to be quotes from numerous people. So unless you give reference you are technicaly plagiarizing. Not to mention the fact that they do not fit in with the subject at hand.Why is it that people with the most narrow of minds seem to have the widest of mouths?
If we all understood that eveyrone has their own battles to fight, insecurities to face, loves to contend and goals to attain, the world would be a gentler place.
If you didnt see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, don't invent it with your small mind & share it with your big mouth.
Now go noob I banish you and your trolling ways!
Gees, I am actually honored and disappointed.
I am honored that you actually spent time reading my posting and googling it.
Disappointed that you spent your precious time and life doing things that you consider as noobish and will banish it in your imagination and bother to reply at all.
Life and people. What an ironical situation that we face everyday and every time.
I would love to have a conversation with you as you seem like a very interesting person, alas this is not possible until you reveal your true identity and stop hiding behind a false one.
"The strongest force in the universe is a human being living consistently with his identity." -Tony Robbins
“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies..”
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#36Don't see her in the above? Sexist comment? 0.o
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#37We cannot mistake absolutism for principle, or substitute spectacle for politics, or treat name-calling as reasoned debate
Obama.
Obama.
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#38This numerous quoting is really stupid and irrelevant so could you please stop?
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#39I did, I am using poetry now if that is ok?This numerous quoting is really stupid and irrelevant so could you please stop?
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Fire and Ice
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
Robert Frost
Anyone poetic enough to understand this In retrospect of Arawn?
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#40I will allow it for now. But only if you're a good girl ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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