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Re: Beta Druids - I am DISAPPOINTED!

#41
Ok So I got a new rant of the day.
Its basically a rant of an existing problem but it is enhanced by a new situation.

I decided to try out for the first time spring of life skill ever. It was a stupid skill before - rez ppl at 1 hp.

I leveled it till lv 33 to rez members till Lv 170. Conclusion:

1) 5 sec delay till 1650 heal pop up. (Merely okay but its kind of silly. Imagine this, Tank or whoever got killed by a skill move, rez the player, 5 secs very vulnerable due to Chaos damage skill being a high AOE range.) But overall I can accept it
2) 880 energy... This one quite a headache as not many druids are able to handle this cost. (Remember lv 50 cost 1200 energy which is even worse!)
3) This is probably the worse. After I sacrifice 900 energy to rez a player and pray to CH god he doesn't get killed within 5 secs, poof, he is resurrected with 1 energy!!! Bloody hell, and he was a mage. He yelled at me as he had 90% energy which equates to 5k energy and poof all gone.

So this is the dilemma, if you dont rez a player, the players will keep idol popping due to bosses being much harder now + chaos damage + rage mode. However, they will incur death penalty which results in further loss of hp and energy.

There is no win win situation. Spring of life is a stupid skill. Now my clan members have told me not to rez them as they need their energy. So I am humm - wat a waste of my energy cost and skill points.

With introduction of chaos dmg, rage mode and death penalty, Spring of life should be highly regarded now and it removes death penalty status. But how on earth does OTM expect Druids to do when players hate the fact they get rez with 1 energy? Lets not forget players with zero sigils. If you rez them, they be pretty much out of combat for 5 mins etc.

Conclusion, High energy cost which sucks and doesnt solve the death penalty at all.

FIX IT PLS.
MorphMarfa has retired from Celtic Heroes and most probably wont be resurfacing. He had a enjoyable time during his druid adventures in Taranis.

Lv 182+ Druid : Taranis

Re: Druids having Energy problems need to Stand up

#43
+1

Ya, when I look at other classes and see how "cool" they are, (Rouges 10K skill hits, etc...) it makes me wonder why I stick it out with being a druid. Our basic nature is to help people and for me it brings joy to the game. Our names never flash on the screen as the one who got the kill. We work in the background and keep the team alive to do their work.

But when it becomes a pain to level, and we get nerfed with lack of energy, and we get one shot'ed by every 10 mile AOE in the game, then the joy gets diluted. You begin to lose the fun you had and you quit playing...

As more and more druids leave the game you will see this game go south fast.

There is a old saying "When Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy"
Well Druids "Ain't Happy"

As Druids we have been too quite on this energy thing. We need to make more noise. We used Sigs to fix our problem in the past and now that ain't workin no mo...

A squeaky wheel gets the grease!
Agree, i dont want a refund i want the product i paid for. I want my sigils back to normal *stamps feet*

Got wiped out on ck of all bosses, im all support and could solo heal a tank easily and im drained dry and potting with every possible regen i can wear...

Reduced cost and correctly working sigils would be great, along with some word from admin besides thanks for your feed back we're interested in your opinion.

Is this something theyre still working on?
Elite

Re: Druids having Energy problems need to Stand up

#44
I'll share my energy experiences. Pre update I had almost the same build I have now: 40 bark, 44 embrace, 42 touch, and 35 breath with the extras in abund. With 200 sigils, a hero, and a master's grim I could use touch, breath, and embrace on cooldown and bark a few seconds after cooldown. My energy bar remained constantly full and healing was relatively easy except for the lavalords.

Now I currently have 40 bark, 44 embrace, 42 touch, 27 breath, and 35 bees (for farming purposes only). Upped my sigils to 500 after careful planning and calculating expected energy consumption at end game levels. I used an energy/sec equation and found I needed about 600 per tick. I also have a new focus offhand lux and the 40 regen ammy. This was base on pre update combat though, I would need about 700-800 to stay up with my current consumption, lord only knows how many I would need end game.

My clan has been attempting the new bosses, killing the spider queen and deepscale. I'm the main buffing druid atm unless goodies is at fights for embrace. I find myself only able to buff when embrace and bark almost run out and throw a touch in here and there. Breath after the aoe, and I ran out at around 50% on spider queen. Luckily I have a couple awesome mage clannies who were willing to sacrafice their eboost(and take a major hit in regen that they could use) for me to continue minimal energy use.

Had I known that the update brought along sigils only half working I wouldn't have bothered getting them and probably rage quit. I will call this a glitch for now still, because I don't think otm is stupid enough to piss off 2 classes over a simple fix.

And one other issue that I've noticed, how in the world am I supposed to keep my heals high enough for bosses while not being destroyed by aoe in the process? I heal 1537 with touch, 250 embrace, and 500 something breath. Can't go any lower on vit because smelly and lego like attacking trolls in the leveling rooms. How am I supposed to keep up with 700 dot from the spider queen, 200-300 auto, and aoe if my touch is so low? I can barely keep my leveling groups heads above water because my heals aren't enough and the energy shuts me down in 5 mins.

I could rage about tank taunt skills being nerfed also but I think that's enough for now :)

Re: Beta Druids - I am DISAPPOINTED!

#45
Tbh there were tons of posts in beta begging otm to fix enrgy. Shyt I'm a warrior and I even made a thread asking for Otm to help druids. Got ignored. Beta druids did just a good of a job as any. Just seemed Otm didn't address druid energy much
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Re: Beta Druids - I am DISAPPOINTED!

#47
I'm struggling too. And I spent hundreds of dollars on sigils, too. But I don't think this is the end of the world. I still love my druid main, I'm still leveling her, and I still think she is important to my clan. I think we just need to find ways to meet the challenges of these new game mechanics.

I bought a new regen ammy and regen crown. I also rebuilt my mage to have boost and sacrifice to help all of the druids in my clan. These changes alone are already helping tremendously. At bosses, I have been pausing a moment in-between each few casts to let myself get out of combat so my sigils kick my mana up a bit. If I'm desperate, I hop on my regen broom mid-fight. And if I'm super desperate, I pop a pot or two.

There is also always the option of not maxing your skills, so not as much energy is consumed. Yeah, we all want everything epic and maxed, but being able to heal throughout the whole duration of the fight is more important than casting epic heals for 1/4 of it and then standing there manaless while the tank dies.
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Re: Beta Druids - I am DISAPPOINTED!

#48
Even though they changed how long you stay in combat stance... it isn't enough. It's pretty ridiculous that just by casting someone you get combat stance too.

Yesterday, some clannies and I took on Aristal. Two level 80+ rangers, a level 70+ ranger, 85 warrior, 55 rogue, my 72 rogue and my 65 druid. When leveling with my rogue just in a druid/rogue duo I don't have much issues with energy without any kind of regen just relying on meditate.

Just a couple of minutes into the fight my druid's mana was draining fast with no hopes of it coming back to finish the fight as we had barely scratched Aristal. Luckily I had just purchased a golden venom blade for my rogue. Had I not switched that weapon to the druid, the fight would have been over quickly with us all dead.

In that kind of fight, a druid can't really "meditate" at all due to constantly being in freakin' combat mode.

Not maxing druid skills on a druid seems a little silly...in a big boss fight it's kinda important to have a huge heal in order to keep people alive and in the fight. It requires a crapton of energy and a longish cooldown. Unless they reduce heal cooldown significantly, I can't see having heal "lower" in order to not be mana-less. I don't think the issue is having druids "not be as epic" by putting less points in skills, rather take care of the bigger issues of spells requiring an absurd amount of energy and meditate/sigils not working like they should.

I understand that OTM needs to make money, but by crippling one of what I assume is one of the most popular items for plat buyers which allows them to enhance their playstyle seems like a pretty craptastic move to me.

My druid is only lvl 65 and I have energy issues... I can only imagine how bad it is for those that are higher level with energy regen items and sigils that are saying how bad it is...

Re: Beta Druids - I am DISAPPOINTED!

#49
Hi guys,

This amazing guy named Bitey, better known as Goodies in-game made this amazing, time-consuming product, which basically shows the image of how much energy each skill costs in terms of energy! I didn't really ask him if I could post this, but just to make sure, he deserves the credit, not me. So give him some love, sorry if this isn't fine, but I thought that this needed the attention of the entire Druid community.

This basically summarizes that all the skills need a change. Actually, the Druid class is broken, let's just say that. The armour is too low, the energy consumption is high, the armour isn't very useful, in terms of each utility in each part. This is an outrage. Here is the screenshot :
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Again, all the credit goes rightfully to Bitey, or Goodies, however you may want to call him, he is great! This is an amazing informational image, thank you to him.

RoyalSeraphim of Taranis

Re: Beta Druids - I am DISAPPOINTED!

#50
Look at that- 485 for EACH NATURE'S TOUCH. Unbelievable.

Before this update my 122 druid could solo heal efficiently for heaps of bosses with no energy problems at 200 sigils. Now my energy runs out in less than a minute.
edit: this was with a dps stats and full support skills too...not a huge amount of focus

Suffice to say I have put her away. Such a shame, I loved her so much.

R.I.P. Alleviate
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