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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#11
Firebolt instant cast 2.5k damage 4.5 sec cooldown......quick instant cast 2k damage 8 sec cooldown

Iceshard 1 second cast 6k damage 15 sec cooldown.... Sneak attack 6k damage available at certain points 2sec cast and 45 sec cooldown

Ice blast 1.5 sec cast 8k damage aoe attack 20 sec cooldown..... Assasinate 8k damage limited to less then 30% is not aoe 2.5 sec cast and 60 sec cooldown.

Incin 2 sec cast 4 ticks 2200 damage per tick....Rend 1/2 sec cast 1 auto worth of damage 3 ticks and 700 damage over time

Frostbite instant damage of 2k 1500 per tick and 6 ticks of damage(this is proba closer to rend so again look up.

Cloak of fire 2 min last up to 500 damage... Risp 6 sec last up to 2k damage

Lures, more then double the damage.... Smoke and expose, no real way of telling how much more then do but doubt double.

Firestorm nice 3k aoe damage.... Shadow strike up to 1.8k of damage which can get bugged so you can't attack

Energy shield, can stop up to and over 2k damage being cast on the user. Life drain after resist at max level heals around 300-400 hp and.

Ice enchantment and fire adds around 1500 to damage of skills(or so i hear)... Posion weapon adds 70 damage each hit

Auto attack, pretty usless and doesnt add enough to waste time regen ing to use... Auto attack good bit as skills are now good you spend most of time skillibg so you lose half of the dps you use to gain from that as he not constant autoing. Does not make up a damage if mage skills

Energy issues mages use alot if energy around double thats of a rogue maybe lil new but have 7k energy to work with and skills to beable to cope with that energy issue.

Rogues use around half as much energy but starts at around 500 energy after 1 round of skills energy is gone and pots must but used to achieve good dps. If regen is warn to exstent needed rogues end up losing dps.

This is my summary
Tell me why i shouldn't be mad
Your such a baby deal with this stuff if you think mages are OP go make yourself a mage and level it up stop complaining
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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#12
Im pointing out whats wrong with the class how does that make me a baby this post was just stating facts which is what i am allowed to do on forums. I cant help it if rogues do not yet see how underpowered they are.

Rogues hve energy issues since start of update 600 energy and skills costing more then 100 energy each.. Big problem(200-250 in sneak and assas) autos are not great really seeing as when your casting ur no longer autoing so auto is no longer a stable forum of dps as it was so posion weapon is a much weaker skill.

I personally have not got one boss kill since update presmajic has got them all. Just stating a fact.
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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#14
Omg...

This whole argument makes me cry

Play a warrior...

Dps isn't anywhere close to either Mage or rogue.. Argument is we are tanks..

So try and tank mobs that drop major damage... And do it when taunt and warcry don't work.. At all.. 35/35 taunt is useless

So... Warriors can't kill.. Can't tank.. And can't heal either...
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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#15
Im pointing out whats wrong with the class how does that make me a baby this post was just stating facts which is what i am allowed to do on forums. I cant help it if rogues do not yet see how underpowered they are.

Rogues hve energy issues since start of update 600 energy and skills costing more then 100 energy each.. Big problem(200-250 in sneak and assas) autos are not great really seeing as when your casting ur no longer autoing so auto is no longer a stable forum of dps as it was so posion weapon is a much weaker skill.

I personally have not got one boss kill since update presmajic has got them all. Just stating a fact.
You post your best rogue in game ive gotten 20/50 kills of bosses weve done and Rapidx got the rest really all of our rogues have gotten the kills you really must not be a good rogue if you can get a kill
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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#17
I dont disagree and tbh I didn't read all the info on the op but I gotta say , to buff rogues should not mean to nerf mages . Rogues wanting to be top dps isn't a good enough reason it just isn't , whether we all agree about what they should be it's not an adequate reason .

I'm all for rogues getting another buff , doi think the sky has fallen on rogues ? Not at all , they are more powerful post update than pre update but so is Mage . Give rogues a buff in some way , but comparing one class to another this way isn't gonna get it done , if I were to make this list and compare rogues and rangers , rogues would look like they need nerfed . Tell me I'm wrong about that...

Brookie , like I've told you before I have no issue with buffing rogues but I do have issue with how you have gone on about it on forums it's counter productive. You blast otm , blast beta , blast mages , and you even have a post named "I told you so" lol people don't respond well to things like that .

I do hope they buff rogues (and rangers of course , we need the buff way more than rogues) I also hope some rogues take the path that isn't pure dps as some of the new skills seem fun and useful , especially for soloing xp or duo with another rogue .
+1

And since when is auto attack sucky? Since when did rogues have to struggle to keep up energy? Since when did mages suddenly not have sucky armor(oh right...they still do)

You're focusing only on the pros of mages, and the cons of rogues. Get your facts right.
Rogues have energy issues too
But when did they start relying on skills? They sacrifice energy regen for auto damage.

Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#18
yeees!!!! but dont nerf mages keep them as they are just make rogues better like dragon armour the bp adding 1K+ in damage and give us like lure of assasinsso we can atleast be somewhat close even close to mages because they do 4 times more damages then rogues atm :cry:
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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#19
Well your saying about are skills boosting out damage then your saying not to rely o them for damage if we just auto mages are double our damage. If we use skills an rely on regen mages more then double our damage if we use skills pots etc then they skill manage 1.5+ times as much damage. So we rely on pots just to be within 50% of them now. If your mages have got kill then you have sucky mages because they are seriously powerfull and a good mage out dps all rogues.
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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#20
Well your saying about are skills boosting out damage then your saying not to rely o them for damage if we just auto mages are double our damage. If we use skills an rely on regen mages more then double our damage if we use skills pots etc then they skill manage 1.5+ times as much damage. So we rely on pots just to be within 50% of them now. If your mages have got kill then you have sucky mages because they are seriously powerfull and a good mage out dps all rogues.
If some mages take time to lure or are maybe full lure then they are helping the DPS. This IMO is a good mage, one that is full support. Also you contradict yourself alot... like here: "If your mages have got kill then you have sucky mages because they are seriously powerfull and a good mage out dps all rogues " You just said mages are really good which is why they got the kill. Some of your posts don't make sense... Is it maybe auto correct doing this?
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