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Kiting is dead. Tanking is dead.

#1
When you're kiting a boss, two very annoying things happen:

1) The boss will turn around on your DPS / group / clan-mates / boss-buddies regardless of who has the most aggro (the tank whose kiting) and slap them with whatever skills it could use. After it's done using its skills, the aggro miraculously goes back to the tank. I had this experience at Ignus where he would randomly turn around after kiting and slap the unfathomable out of the rest of my group. After that he would start walking back to me before I even have time to cast taunt!

I'd also like to add that his Magma Shield does 150-200 damage on FULL FROZEN! But that is a complaint for another topic.

2) After spamming a very high 42 taunt for 3/4 of the fight, taking a few seconds to taunt adds will make the tank lose aggro.

It's frustrating to have this experience in game and see stuff like my signature from the admin.

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Tanking (warrior+druid) is dead because druids NEED support from mages + 35 skill points in a SKILL to support for warriors. What?!?!?!

Please make kiting doable again.
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Re: Kiting is dead. Tanking is dead.

#2
Well I noticed it also while kiting but someone reminded me of longshot which could be the cause of the problem with agro goings to dps. If u dont know while u bolas if someone use longshot it roots the boss if tank is outside of auto range it moved to closes person with the most agro. Havent tested it if its the cause but its possible that it was so tell rangers to not use the skill while kiting. For tanking thats dead mobs hit to hard u need to many druids while u can actually kite much easier.

Re: Kiting is dead. Tanking is dead.

#6
Yes tanking is still possible but who in their right mind would choose to kill a boss with 6-8 druids when u can kill with 2 rangers and 3 druids or add control (depends what boss). Not to meantion u evade a lot of damage by bolas walking as u get hit with a lot less aoe skills then u do while tanking. Overall any smart group would bolas walk rather then tank.

Re: Kiting is dead. Tanking is dead.

#7
Yes tanking is still possible but who in their right mind would choose to kill a boss with 6-8 druids when u can kill with 2 rangers and 3 druids or add control (depends what boss). Not to meantion u evade a lot of damage by bolas walking as u get hit with a lot less aoe skills then u do while tanking. Overall any smart group would bolas walk rather then tank.

Thats the point over a year we have hear from all classes the warriors are the best tanks , rather bolas kiting was the best way to tank ( kiting is form of tanking), pyrus always had been the same issue with energy regen sigils didnt work as good in lava fields.

OTM has only close all loops and errors from their game.

So now you guys see the amount of heals to kill a regular boss is insane. I got used to play it hard mode since forever so all this issues seems like regular playing for me and clanmates ( enraged and curse is the only part i dont like).

shield bash time it at rigth moment will help for op example i, but timing will take alot practice,

for other bosses fire cloack helps alot to keep aggro and now shatter with pummel+ taunt will help keep aggro at the right moment after dps gorup memeber skill hit . So now you are really tanking not just spam taunting .
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Re: Kiting is dead. Tanking is dead.

#8
My shield bash timing is fine.

My problem is that the boss that's being kited turns around and attacks naked DPS and even druids while I have aggro. I will be testing Yilley's theory about longshot. Spamming level 42 taunt isn't supposed to keep aggro on me at all times?

PS. I've kited every dragonlord boss, including the 180 multiple times. My average idol use for bosses is 5. Sometimes less. Sometimes more. It's the rest of my clan mates I'm worried about.
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Re: Kiting is dead. Tanking is dead.

#9
If there are issues with bosses we are very happy to look into them and improve them, but remember for aggro there are many factors in the enemy AI including things like relative level, distance from enemy, direction enemy is facing etc, it's not just about spamming one skill, to be most effective at managing aggro the behaviour and composition of the group makes a big difference.

Re: Kiting is dead. Tanking is dead.

#10
If there are issues with bosses we are very happy to look into them and improve them, but remember for aggro there are many factors in the enemy AI including things like relative level, distance from enemy, direction enemy is facing etc, it's not just about spamming one skill, to be most effective at managing aggro the behaviour and composition of the group makes a big difference.
I held the aggro fine like all the bosses before today. But I saw this boss turn around and kill my dps each time it used a skill. Literally. Each. Time. Normally, the only thing Ignus is able to cast while it's being kited is Spit Fire when I'm at a safe distance from quake. But this time he turned around and slammed dps even when I held the aggro. And I can confirm this because Ignus started walking back to me without me having to taunt after using those skills, which were not aimed at me.

Why are bosses suddenly aiming for people that don't have the most aggro?
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