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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#51
To save room from our debate I won't quote again lol. But anyway, mages aren't op, its an illusion to you. In fact i too, worked the math out and made a post about it but it was shoved into a master topic and is gone, but, yea mages are strong, ofc were strong, we control the elements, and yes rogues are strong, super strong, you can launch attacks from the shadows, stop all incoming attacks for a time, and have unmatchable auto attack. Point is, take either of our classes and compare to a ranger, what's your excuse then?

Your taking two well set off classes and puttin em against eachother.

People pick a class that best suits them, they like the one they pick so they carry it out and enjoy the time they do level with it.

If in fact, you with all your heart think a mage is the best class, then play it, don't complain about em and get a whole class hating you. Become the best mage in the game, give up the days of rogue because i know I only play to see my name as kill in a group effort boss fight. (sarcasm sign being held up)
World: Arawn
Clan: Serenity
Main Class: Unknown even to me
Omicron:Ranger
Dent:Mage

Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#52
I was comparing the same aspects of the classes. What is the point of a rogue if a mage can do everything we can but better please explain??

Ranger still have light heal and bolas and are still super important for new bosses. The simple fact that rogues get beat in every single aspect of this game by another class shows there is something wrong.

I do hve a mage and i do know what they can do. But the simple fact is why have a class which is just not as good in every way to another class?? You balance classes by making them each good at different things but if a class beat another class at everything the 1 class is underpowered.

If you believe that mages should be better at rogues at everything then you have no idea of class balance please have a think about it. You and i both know ovules dps should be top its what they was made for and it isn't.

Now as for the auto. What is the point of having 1500 autos if 1 resists take them to 150. 2 they miss around 70% of the time. Please explain to me that?? I hve 5000 attack and 1.5k damage and miss 70% of time an hit 150s regular... Yet if a mage is there i hit 900s and i only get another 5% extra hit rate if i use smoke bomb whih lasts 20 secs but my dps is increased 500% by lures which last 1 min

So its your turn to answer my questions :).
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#53
I was comparing the same aspects of the classes. What is the point of a rogue if a mage can do everything we can but better please explain??

Ranger still have light heal and bolas and are still super important for new bosses. The simple fact that rogues get beat in every single aspect of this game by another class shows there is something wrong.

I do hve a mage and i do know what they can do. But the simple fact is why have a class which is just not as good in every way to another class?? You balance classes by making them each good at different things but if a class beat another class at everything the 1 class is underpowered.

If you believe that mages should be better at rogues at everything then you have no idea of class balance please have a think about it. You and i both know ovules dps should be top its what they was made for and it isn't.

Now as for the auto. What is the point of having 1500 autos if 1 resists take them to 150. 2 they miss around 70% of the time. Please explain to me that?? I hve 5000 attack and 1.5k damage and miss 70% of time an hit 150s regular... Yet if a mage is there i hit 900s and i only get another 5% extra hit rate if i use smoke bomb whih lasts 20 secs but my dps is increased 500% by lures which last 1 min

So its your turn to answer my questions :).
If your auto is that bad you need help my friend.

As for if I think mages should be better than rouges, no not really. Do I believe that if a rogue is out DPS'd in a group effort they should complain, no but you do.

The simple point of the matter is this, yea, games a bit unbalanced as is. Mages do hit harder, we also consume more energy and have less armour, which is something you seem to ignore. We can miss our attacks too believe it or not and us missing a cast in solo level can sometimes be fatal.

Mages get the damage at the cost of armour and before you say it, yes we got a shield that supplies with 1.1k armour at 30/30 but this doesn't do much as mobs can easily kill it when a mags misses a cast. Rogues get the damage and the armor is significantly better as compared to a mages. They have insane feats in auto and the good ones do manage to hit the mob more than 30% of the time. Rangers have bolas and longshot allowing them to pin a mob and damage it almost 80% before it touches them. Druids are the masters of the heal. And warriors are insane armour wearers without the great damage achieved by rogues or mages.

I honestly think that you brookie1 are wasting your writing talent complaining about something very few agree with you on. Get to 175 and get full dragon and you'll complain about that not giving enough heat damage for legs and how mages give +5 to shield. You can't have it all so appreciate what you got.

If I missed any question please lemme know and I'll adress them, btw have you emailed the movie directors yet about mages being too strong?
World: Arawn
Clan: Serenity
Main Class: Unknown even to me
Omicron:Ranger
Dent:Mage

Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#54
May I ask your level and have you killed any if the new bosses?? I not then you don't undertand because the new bosses mobs defence are so high i miss 70% of the time. This is not my fault an other mages are complaining about it. I am guessing your around about 130?140 maybe. Then you don't know these new bosses and how rogues just dont cut it now. The game is unbalanced and you will see it when you level up(i say 120-149 as you talk about 30/30 energy shield :p) also i am guessing you have no aggy gear.

My friend has 58 focus and his add ons take him up to 1k focus.... Now lets think about it with that build he can hit 3k firbolt 5-6k shards and 3.5-4k firestorm. While having 5k hp.

Again i am saying if 1 class is better then another class at everything what is the point of that 1 class.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#55
You know you might just wanna ask those rogues higher than you that don't complain what their doin. Cause obviously a boss kill is a huge issue and you want to condemn mages to be LureMonkeys for their purpose in the game. Some mages enjoy this build, hell I'm one of em. But that's not the point of a Mage. If our purpose was to make sure everyone's energy is maxed. Then don't you think energy boost shouldnt have a 15+ second cooldown.

In any point i see that your mind is made up and like all others that have commented on this post I too am done with it.
World: Arawn
Clan: Serenity
Main Class: Unknown even to me
Omicron:Ranger
Dent:Mage

Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#56
I may not be the highest level rogue but that because leveling has became a nerf in target locking bosses. However you won't find a rogue that knows much more then me or who has much better gear then me. The fact why we have more armour is simply cause we are close ranged i get hit by all aoes mages can easily dodge them. E shield amazing skill gives u another 1.5k health lol. I dont believ mages should be lure monkeys they have great bust damage and great energy heal and great indirect dps. They should be second best dps under rogues. Like i said why have rogues worse then mages in every single way... Makes no sense.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#57
I may not be the highest level rogue but that because leveling has became a nerf in target locking bosses. However you won't find a rogue that knows much more then me or who has much better gear then me. The fact why we have more armour is simply cause we are close ranged i get hit by all aoes mages can easily dodge them. E shield amazing skill gives u another 1.5k health lol. I dont believ mages should be lure monkeys they have great bust damage and great energy heal and great indirect dps. They should be second best dps under rogues. Like i said why have rogues worse then mages in every single way... Makes no sense.
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Re: A better way of showing how rogue skills are underpowere

#58
what is the rogue class if it takes maybe 2nd or 3rd place in the damage rank... i totally disagree with the fact that the str/dmg ratio is so weak, my druid with the same offhand and 5 str doe 500 less damage than a fully equipped rogue with frozen... making in battle, a difference of about 150-200, are you kidding me?
What are rogues meant to be then.... decoy? decoration?
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