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Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

#31
Makes sense i suppose, though the druids in my clan seem more than happy as is. Im just very frustrated that i cant land even half my melees and i am being beat by the healer class
Maybe it's my frustration that sigils suck, harvest sucks, meditate sucks, heals suck, buffs are meh, new skills are meh, no extra points to add any useful skills is kind of a bummer, and I need my own personal mage to help me limp through bosses. Back in the day, which seems so long ago, I was more than capable of being an op support with less than half my sigs I have now, solo healed on grom a couple times. Dps didn't matter much, it was meh at best to be a dps druid.

In other words, I hear ya ;)

This train has been derailed by me enough now :lol: I'll let ya get back to the attempt to fix your class.
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Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

#32
LAWL Brookie, again FULL OF YOURSELF, soo funny to watch the "best damn rogue ever" fail. Ahhh so funny... But not once did I say I could out-tank a true tank. I can tank, have done it will do it again and you think your so funny with your lame skill points lawl, I don't even have that yet can still keep the agro off of you, and the only reason you get agro from your failing tank is he is either having his skills evaded or he hasn't put on enough taunts yet while your away dishing damage. I challenge you to try and beat me in an agro contest because you surely will fail. Your not even good enough to compare to a real rogue, I'd truly like to test it on alfnorris, the current "best dam rogue ever".
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Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

#33
LAWL Brookie, again FULL OF YOURSELF, soo funny to watch the "best damn rogue ever" fail. Ahhh so funny... But not once did I say I could out-tank a true tank. I can tank, have done it will do it again and you think your so funny with your lame skill points lawl, I don't even have that yet can still keep the agro off of you, and the only reason you get agro from your failing tank is he is either having his skills evaded or he hasn't put on enough taunts yet while your away dishing damage. I challenge you to try and beat me in an agro contest because you surely will fail. Your not even good enough to compare to a real rogue, I'd truly like to test it on alfnorris, the current "best dam rogue ever".
I better explain how agro works. Its based on hits done damage done skills like taunt and just using skills.

Now if i have more skills and higher skill point aswell as more damage and im gonna hit more then you cause of dodge and parry slows you down then you will! Lose agro its simple. You say your a tank but not as good as a true tank class. So your a fail tank then? You are making people believe that tanking is an option for rogues when it really isn't you will lose agro and you will die alot more an also you wot have any add control. If a warrior did this i would call him a crap tank. So thats means ya you might be beat rogue tank ever but your a rogue who is tanking who loses agro, who can't control adds, who does alot more then a warrior. Very simple makes you a crap tank. In my opinion.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

#34
Everyone other than warrior is a crappy tank , i don't think it's even debatable , there have been many rogues ranger and mages that claim to be tanks , it's all just nonsense . Tanking a mob and being a tank are 2 completely different things lol

I can pretty much guarantee that no non warrior tank can keep agro if I try and take it.
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Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

#35
Everyone other than warrior is a crappy tank , i don't think it's even debatable , there have been many rogues ranger and mages that claim to be tanks , it's all just nonsense . Tanking a mob and being a tank are 2 completely different things lol

I can pretty much guarantee that no non warrior tank can keep agro if I try and take it.
Ima 1 up that. I can garentee that no none warrior tank can keep agro if i try to just kill the boss...

Elim is right people believe tanking is tanking but its really just not. Its much more about keeping agro controlling adds. This is why defence needs a look into and a few skills such as rend and barbed need a massive boost.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

#36
LAWL Brookie, again FULL OF YOURSELF, soo funny to watch the "best damn rogue ever" fail. Ahhh so funny... But not once did I say I could out-tank a true tank. I can tank, have done it will do it again and you think your so funny with your lame skill points lawl, I don't even have that yet can still keep the agro off of you, and the only reason you get agro from your failing tank is he is either having his skills evaded or he hasn't put on enough taunts yet while your away dishing damage. I challenge you to try and beat me in an agro contest because you surely will fail. Your not even good enough to compare to a real rogue, I'd truly like to test it on alfnorris, the current "best dam rogue ever".

Lol... Rouge... Tanking...

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

#39
There are such things as tank builds for all classes but if you non-warriors believe you are a true tank, tank Aggragoth, prove it, and we'll all shut up.

Don't say you need 15 druids because that's like saying a dps warrior can tank Aggragoth with that many druids, and nobody would call him/her a tank.

If one class other than warriors can pull it off, it's the rangers class because they, along with rogues, have the second highest armor rating, have entangle (to assure reduced dps), light heal (can heal a decent amount to make up for losses), and bolas (which is useful for many but not all bosses). As far as aggro us concerned, it's up to the ranger's dps. Cloak and defensive spikes would do it for the new bosses which have super high defense. That would mean 100% hit with spikes and cloak but low chance to hit with auto from all classes.

Yes, rogues have fast reflexes... What else do they have? Their only healing skill is more offensive and on major bosses, fast reflexes won't garentee reduced incoming dps.
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