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Also you have no idea who and what kind of people we have recruited.

Yes I do. I wouldn't want to log my Druid either regarding the below quote. You've made it very clear they have no respect for the healing class and people who choose this path. Broken or not, they shouldn't force you into any role you "feel sad about". This is clearly not OTM, but the caliber of people you choose to associate with. Fact is, when I am not busy collecting data or organizing the druid link list and I log into the game, I get slammed with whispers asking to level and boss. Carebear server my ass. This is about respect.

Sad part is im asked to go dps more than heals now.

just to point it out, i have been in his clan and actually got hated on for being dps druid while that actually was what i wanted to be... but that aside.

All you are doing is proving my point that it takes a skilled player to execute a druid proficiently. The fact that main druid toons do not log leads me to believe your clan recruited less than desirable healer class players. It is easy to blame OTM for the lack of druid participation. I blame nubs who think they think they can play a class that takes skill, and is also the foundation of every group and clan but are unable to adapt.

so basicly what you're trying to say that he isnt good enough to be a druid? and that i am not, as i am having severe problems too?
id have to correct you on that, i have been playing over 2 years and been a great druid in update 3. stretch might have not been here as long, but certainly has the same -if not more- knowledge on the druid class then you have. yes not many people choose druid class, why? because yes it takes hard work and a certain skill to actually play them well. stretch has that skill definitly. you blame noobs that think they have skill? i blame OTM for a part, but why would i blame people that dont know what they do yet? when i started my druid i was such a giant noob, but in all honesty ive been one of the best druids of my world in update 3. maybe even in game, even tho i wasnt highest lvl, i did have extremely good buffs and heals, just not the same gear some had. druid is not a skill you have to own, its a skill you have to learn, but not all can learn it.

OTM has made druids so bad that even people that have been in top rank druids over a year are considering quitting the game, or changing to a different class main. these are not things i say, these are facts. another fact is that druids where a bad class in update 2 -along twith mages-, because of people potting and lack of dps on the class. in update 3 people comlained druids where too good, too much needed... i disagree, it was a tiny bit of correction that we deserved for going through update 2. it was how druids are supposed to be: they where needed to boss and lvl. they still are now, but soloing got quite a bit easier, for all classes except druid. most groups i see exist of 7 dpsers, and if ur lucky one dps druid with only natures touch to heal... ive seen groups using rangers to heal instead of druids too. im glad in our world its not so bad in that way, because most will group druids to lvl, but weve become more useless then update 2 almost... we did 170 boss with all dps, 2 tanks, and one support druid and one dps druid with nature touch and me. thats one of the best bosses in game, all they did was have people kite the boss, tanks tanked adds, the one druid buffed and healed and other druid did one heal every now and then so tank wouldnt die. i remember there where 8-9 druids needed for aggy first time... i remember there where 7 druids needed for the first pyrus... 5-6 druids for stonelord... 170 boss would be like stonelord, but instead we need one druid and one semi heals druid and one dps druid (i dont use nature touch at all anymore).

many druids quit or think about quitting. some have high lvl alts, buy a lot of plat, or are simply rich in game, they can switch mains. im thinking about switching mains too, it would cost me till next update to get him high lvl, solid endgame items like i have now and more, cuz im not that rich in game, dont have high lvl alts, and dont buy enough plat to do that. still i might just switch mains, why? well thats how fed up i got with whats happening with the class. we are not becoming entirely useless, but the facts are we need too much to be any decent, so we can just all be noobs with not using our awesome agg bracelets, 250 focus offhands, good prince ammies and agg rings, but use all energy regain items we can get. yay lets make ourselves so clairvoyant they will complain our heals and buffs are bad, and we can say well yea go to OTM they force druids to get crappy items or buy 4k plat per week to do bosses only, knowing some people can only afford 4k per month, and some 4k per year, and some nothing.

I don't get ur problem now, everyone needs Druids to lvl because they losse health fast, if u gone be support Druid, why don't max ur meditation or get some skill points in so u can get energy while healing. I am a very busy Druid, Shen I logg in I get grp req instantly and I am lvl 57 but I still have some energy issues but then I just go travern and regen. If ur in tunnels and are like long from nearest leystone, take a break and regn. Most high lvl druids got regn, and Nature Touch have been much lesser energy cost. At lvl 17 it just costs 50 energy.

hunter i really hope your joking... one skill costs at least 400+ energy on our lvl, we dont use regain items as much because we need the good agg braces and stuff to be a druid that is barely worth being called a decent druid, most of us have above 200 sigils (1600 plat/$50) and wish they wouldnt have bought it because we never get out of combat during a fight anyways unless we stand far away from boss and dont help for 2 mins to regain some of our energy and there is no way in hell im going to tavern to regain when im on an elixer during lvling or when im doing a boss.

so... yep. im mad. im furious. and even tho i dont always agree with him, stretch is saying damn good things and its time someone said that instead of hating on it.

im very glad you want to max meditate and energy harvest, still use pots and energy elixers to keep up, still be useless at many bosses, still not be a good druid, still waste so much money for no recognision and still be happy with the crappy things thats being done for us now.

Well there u go. Yrck was one of if not the best druid in u3. Still is a awsome solid player. Dude is probably one of the most popular dps druids that ever did it. They had a 30+ page on him in general discussion last update when he killed aggy. Loves his druid so much he doesn't even bother with alts is now putting his hat in ring too. He is the epiphany of druids and he is not happy at all either. Only person i know that uses more alt books than me testing various builds switching atleast three times a day. So he knows the ins and outs of all builds a druid uses is admitting there is a huge problem here aswell. Seems to be a pattern. I agree with all of his post. Something needs to be done before the druid community losses a player of his caliber. Will be a sad day to see someone with as much knowlage ingame as him decide to use a more cost efficiant class because druids are not that great atm compared to other classes. I play them all at a high level except a ranger which is only lvl 100 something. So i can tell you from experiance that druids are not in a good spot at all atm.

Dude is probably one of the most popular dps druids that ever did it.

most popular? yes. best? no.

Will be a sad day to see someone with as much knowlage ingame as him decide to use a more cost efficiant class because druids are not that great atm compared to other classes.

will just quit the game at all, since i will have less time with my new job anyways.

I propose you (all of you who have posted to this thread or others crying about druids) start spending your energy of frustration on something productive. For instance, my STATS: Druid Revealed thread. Snap shot me your current build so HL and I can crunch some numbers to present to OTM.

i used maths to get my builds straight, had no idea others did the same so didnt keep logs -.- ill be glad to help. if you have any jobs specifically youd like to see, i can do whatever youd like. as i type this im thinking about when tomorrow im gonna sit in front of my PC and have some fun studying all posts in that thread

Thanks Yrck and Stretch for shouting out how so many of us high level druids feel. I've also tried tons of builds from dps to support. I love my 166 druid, but a number of things happened in the update that made them much less fun to play. As currently a support druid, id like to see those skills improved dramatically. Kiting bosses shouldn't be the only way to go and wouldn't be if our heals and buffs were stronger. I've made many specific suggestions before, but here's some again.

Make healing touch, breath and embrace improve at higher levels such as removing the focus platau for healing touch, or making tough get dramatically stronger as we level 160+. One time I even suggested doubling the power and doubling the energy consuption. That would make it very powerful, but would have to be cast carefully.

Combine wards into a spell ward and a melee ward. Thank god you didnt make five more spells for each of the evasions and just made bless? Lol

I do like what you did with damage spells, but they still require way too much power at lvl 50.

Quick post since I did not contribute to the discussion before:

1. I love the fact that we stay in combact now, that we cannot spam heals & buffs all the time, and that we need to take
care of our energy. It adds a new kind of difficulty that makes it funnier. It also gives a sense to the length of battles
that should be short (at most 15m).

2. I love the idea that sigils should be used only to regen out of battle. But surely the current regen rate without sigils is
broken. Regen should be a percentage, taking say at most 1m to fully regen. Sigils should be fully refunded and then
put back in game with a max number of them (e.g. at least 15s to fully regen).

3. We have too many spells and not enough points. Many spells are broken (e.g. sol). Many spells use too much energy.
I do not want to spam spells all the time and be a super-hero, but some energy boost should be made anyway to avoid
us having to equip all and only energy regen items. (I have all energy regen items now, even the orb that gives no focus).

4. I do not like those that go extremal (any class) and then complain. Being full focus or full support of full dps, etc. should
be bad and unbalanced, and not the right thing. If you go full focus you should not complain that you die quickly, if you boost
one spell to 50/35 you should not complain that it costs too much energy, etc. You can do, but you pay a price.
Again, the problem now is that for example even some 35/35 spells use too much energy, but that's another story.

Just MHO

Cheers

You Bought Sigils, like to PvP, and Use Howling Wind.
Negate all the above and it's a good class.
Stop PvP-ing
Stop Soloing...
and Buy some Regen Gear... It's Whatever.

You Bought Sigils, like to PvP, and Use Howling Wind.
Negate all the above and it's a good class.
Stop PvP-ing
Stop Soloing...
and Buy some Regen Gear... It's Whatever.

Buddy hate to break this to u but u are way off on what we are griping about. Lower level perhaps? I havent once mentioned pvp,we all know that mess is broken. Soloing is the way to go if there aren't any groups. Plus with the amount of money we've invested in our toons to obtain the top end gear we should be able to breeze through solo mobs. Most of the people on here griping own every piece of regen lux possible. In order to slot thos items we lose about 600 off our heal making us not that great at big bosses. But at the big bosses were not needed anymore to heal anyways. Even with 1000 energy sigals all the regens equipped we still chug resto pots more than any other class. Only one dps druid is needed as the highest vines and swarm are only one on target. Negating the need for anymore druids. The list can go on and on,but its raining out here so i am just making a quick post. Fact of the matter 1-150 lvls i can be a healer all u want. Fact of the matter is at endgame play atm healers are just a liability really. The info u are trying to say is null and void for druids at endgame lvl. Alot of us waited to gripe till we've obtained enough new gear to make a decision. So now here we are.

Elvra i read ur post when i get a chance from busy work/family life ill post u my build on other topic.

Yrck i understand ur problem, when i am DPS i have major energy issues. When i am Support i have no problem cuz i can regn all the time, I dident mean that u dident have energy prova, i ment loser lvl not on ur lvl

You Bought Sigils, like to PvP, and Use Howling Wind.
Negate all the above and it's a good class.
Stop PvP-ing
Stop Soloing...
and Buy some Regen Gear... It's Whatever.

Buddy hate to break this to u but u are way off on what we are griping about. Lower level perhaps? I havent once mentioned pvp,we all know that mess is broken. Soloing is the way to go if there aren't any groups. Plus with the amount of money we've invested in our toons to obtain the top end gear we should be able to breeze through solo mobs. Most of the people on here griping own every piece of regen lux possible. In order to slot thos items we lose about 600 off our heal making us not that great at big bosses. But at the big bosses were not needed anymore to heal anyways. Even with 1000 energy sigals all the regens equipped we still chug resto pots more than any other class. Only one dps druid is needed as the highest vines and swarm are only one on target. Negating the need for anymore druids. The list can go on and on,but its raining out here so i am just making a quick post. Fact of the matter 1-150 lvls i can be a healer all u want. Fact of the matter is at endgame play atm healers are just a liability really. The info u are trying to say is null and void for druids at endgame lvl. Alot of us waited to gripe till we've obtained enough new gear to make a decision. So now here we are.

Elvra i read ur post when i get a chance from busy work/family life ill post u my build on other topic.

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