If all humans have rights, who protects those rights? Who would you rather protect your rights you or the same governments that force women to wear beekeeper suits in 100+ degree heat? The same governments that will imprison you or cut off your head for not facing the proper way when you kneel down and pray to the government sanctioned god. All I am trying to say is when the chips are on the table and you have to chose for someone to stand up for your best interests, would you rather the government do it or you do it? All I know is that given history People who have relied on government,
Or any other type of decesion making body have all perished throughout time. Because the great American experiment was the greatest form ov self governance until communisim was introduced into our system which was in thecearly 1900s.
Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#52Some scientists claim to have found a gay gene. Others have run studies that show when one identical twin is gay, the other is 40-60% more likely to be gay. Exposing a fetus to certain amounts of the hormones of the opposite sex may also increase the chance that the baby is gay. There are numerous other studies that have been conducted. Here's one from six years ago:Genes do not dictate whether someone is gay. If they did, people of the same sex would be able to reproduce, and combine their "gay" DNA. I'm sorry I can't type that with a straight face.God did not create marriage. Marriage exists universally, in many religions and cultures.Wow. This world has gone to waste.
@Pigman God created what we know today as marriage, the government can barley control what it's people do, they don't dictate squat.
"If Two People Love Eachother Then That's all That Matters"
With that logic you're okay with a brother and sister, cousins, and any close relatives having intimate realationships as long as they, "love Eachother"
There's a reason only a Man, and a Woman can procreate, because that's how it's suppose to be.
That the end of it.
Government does not "dictate". It regulates. There are advantages to marrying, regulated by government, and because someone's genes makes them a homosexual, are they not be allowed to have these same advantages?
Incest leads to genetically defective children. Do gays and lesbians have defective children? No, incest is wrong because it leads to deformities, mental disease, short life spans, and damage to the gene pool. Preventing incest prevents children suffering from all sorts of problems. Preventing LGBT marriages does nothing.
Yes, only a man and a woman can procreate. But the Earth is already over populated, and population growth is still huge. What does it matter if some couples can't have children in this day and age?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 170741.htm
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Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#53^LOLOLOLOL! IF there was a genetic cause in sexual orientation, same gender couples would be able to reproduce.... End of story
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Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#54This statement is incorrect. Males and females have different genetalia so a two members of the same sex will not be able to reproduce because you need both male and female genetalia to reproduce. Now for a biology lesson.Genes do not dictate whether someone is gay. If they did, people of the same sex would be able to reproduce, and combine their "gay" DNA. I'm sorry I can't type that with a straight face.
In every cell (apart from red blood cells) of a human's body exists a nucleus. A key material in a nucleus is DNA. DNA is arranged into 46 strands in somatic cells. Each strand of DNA contains sections which hold the code that is required to produce proteins, and proteins are what male up our bodies and make us who we are. These sections on a strand are called genes and the whole strand with its scaffolding and special arrangement is called a chromosome. Half these chromosomes come from your mother and half from your father. Each pair of chromosomes contains the same code but a different variation of it, called alleles. For example, your mother may pass on the allele for blue eyes and your father may pass on an allele for brown eyes. Both genes on the chromosome pair code for eye colour, but they are variations of eachother.
The final pair of chromosomes in a person's nucleus determine gender. The two variant chromosomes are the X chromosome and the Y chromosome. Males have a chromosome pair of XY whereas females have XX. Your statement would only be true of the gene that codes for homosexuality exited on the X or Y chromosome. These XX and XY chromosomes code for the proteins that give males and females their differing genetalia. The gene or genes that code for homosexuality may not exist on the X or Y chromosome and so the genetalia of one sex won't be able to be compatible with another's. it's the X and Y chromosomes that determine whether we can interbreed, not any genes that code for homosexuality. Even if the gene(s) existed on these final 2 chromosomes, it will not change the formation of genetalia unless there is a mutation on the gene on these chromosomes that codes for the genetalia. Defects on the X chromosome can lead to red-green colour blindness but that doesn't mean that colour blind people of the same gender can reproduce.
The ene for homosexuality may be on another chromosome. Besides, I'm sure researchers would have come up with that idea of it were true. The only way to tell if it is genetic is through research, but there are strong indications that it is genetic.
Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#55Not really a lesson, already knew. But the chromosomes in male and females do NOT dictate whether their child is gay. Most gays and lesbians turn that way through childhood when they discover groups that accept them. No one cares what you do as a gay or lesbian. But what people care about is when you shove it down our throats that you are.This statement is incorrect. Males and females have different genetalia so a two members of the same sex will not be able to reproduce because you need both male and female genetalia to reproduce. Now for a biology lesson.Genes do not dictate whether someone is gay. If they did, people of the same sex would be able to reproduce, and combine their "gay" DNA. I'm sorry I can't type that with a straight face.
In every cell (apart from red blood cells) of a human's body exists a nucleus. A key material in a nucleus is DNA. DNA is arranged into 64 strands in somatic cells. Each strand of DNA contains sections which hold the code that is required to produce proteins, and proteins are what male up our bodies and make us who we are. These sections on a strand are called genes and the whole strand with its scaffolding and special arrangement is called a chromosome. Half these chromosomes come from your mother and half from your father. Each pair of chromosomes contains the same code but a different variation of it, called alleles. For example, your mother may pass on the allele for blue eyes and your father may pass on an allele for brown eyes. Both genes on the chromosome pair code for eye colour, but they are variations of eachother.
The final pair of chromosomes in a person's nucleus determine gender. The two variant chromosomes are the X chromosome and the Y chromosome. Males have a chromosome pair of XY whereas females have XX. Your statement would only be true of the gene that codes for homosexuality exited on the X or Y chromosome. These XX and XY chromosomes code for the proteins that give males and females their differing genetalia. The gene or genes that code for homosexuality may not exist on the X or Y chromosome and so the genetalia of one sex won't be able to be compatible with another's. it's the X and Y chromosomes that determine whether we can interbreed, not any genes that code for homosexuality. Even if the gene(s) existed on these final 2 chromosomes, it will not change the formation of genetalia unless there is a mutation on the gene on these chromosomes that codes for the genetalia. Defects on the X chromosome can lead to red-green colour blindness but that doesn't mean that colour blind people of the same gender can reproduce.
The ene for homosexuality may be on another chromosome. Besides, I'm sure researchers would have come up with that idea of it were true. The only way to tell if it is genetic is through research, but there are strong indications that it is genetic.
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Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#56Lesbians can get in vitro, so that's half of your reason invalid. Sure guys cant reproduce, that's what adoptions for. Also,^LOLOLOLOL! IF there was a genetic cause in sexual orientation, same gender couples would be able to reproduce.... End of story
This makes no sense. Why would such groups accept them if they weren't homosexual already? And how do you know that this is how most children become gay? I see no hard evidence, just misconceptions and stereotypes.Most gays and lesbians turn that way through childhood when they discover groups that accept them
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Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#57Lesbians can get in vitro, so that's half of your reason invalid. Sure guys cant reproduce, that's what adoptions for. Also,^LOLOLOLOL! IF there was a genetic cause in sexual orientation, same gender couples would be able to reproduce.... End of storyThis makes no sense. Why would such groups accept them if they weren't homosexual already? And how do you know that this is how most children become gay? I see no hard evidence, just misconceptions and stereotypes.Most gays and lesbians turn that way through childhood when they discover groups that accept them
removed because i let my annoyance get carried away
and +1 grey, uzi is simply homophobic which i have no patience for
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Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#58So because my parents are southern and republican you are prejudice against them?Lesbians can get in vitro, so that's half of your reason invalid. Sure guys cant reproduce, that's what adoptions for. Also,^LOLOLOLOL! IF there was a genetic cause in sexual orientation, same gender couples would be able to reproduce.... End of storyThis makes no sense. Why would such groups accept them if they weren't homosexual already? And how do you know that this is how most children become gay? I see no hard evidence, just misconceptions and stereotypes.Most gays and lesbians turn that way through childhood when they discover groups that accept them
cant blame uzi really... not his fault he grew up in a southern state with prejudiced, republican parents
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Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#59So because my parents are southern and republican you are prejudice against them?
no, sorry i got carried away. (thanks for bringing me down to earth sol)
i have nothing against people for being southern or being republicans, while i disagree with the rebublican ideals i do not hate them.
i DO hate bigots and racists
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Re: Gays and lesbeins new law in the USA
#60While I can understand that this topic will have some heated debates please try not to isult one another or one anothers family/friends for their points of view.
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