1 someone is killing something you generally don't walk up and wack it
2 someone is waiting for a mob to spawn ie leveling I don't expect somone to stand in same spot so that they can kill it
3 a group is waiting for a boss to spawn I don't expect another group to assemble next to them and one person waiting on a boss as a spotter don't really make a group we have timers so we know when it's going to spawn
4 treat others how you would like to be treated
Don't do it to me unless you want me to do it back
Back in dc days once you hit a certain level there were only 3 mobs that gave xp once you hit a certain level I don't generally grind levels very often but back then as is now there r only a few mobs that give me xp so if I am leveling I don't expect people to break those rules
Now we can choose to live by them or not but if people choose not then they should expect the concequences
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#2I like these rules... Thought they went without saying though...
I really don't want arawn to turn into another mabon... That doesn't look fun!
I really don't want arawn to turn into another mabon... That doesn't look fun!
General of Seed - Crom
Druid 216+ & 130 something on Arawn retured in 2013
Rangers 221+ And 190+
Rogues 220+, 210+, 150+, 97+ & 150 on Arawn retired in 2013
Mage 214+
Warrior 218+
Ex member of Badabing, Celts, Uskoci & Serenity on Arawn
Druid 216+ & 130 something on Arawn retured in 2013
Rangers 221+ And 190+
Rogues 220+, 210+, 150+, 97+ & 150 on Arawn retired in 2013
Mage 214+
Warrior 218+
Ex member of Badabing, Celts, Uskoci & Serenity on Arawn
Re: General good manners
#4Agreed! I know that Falgren will be more of an issue as more clans can take him down and the dragons that everyone needs only drop from one Boss. There were two groups that were forming last night and honestly I don't know who startated first and who had the most. I got there 15 mintes before spawn and started assembling a team while I was driving and pulled over for the fight. There was not a group there when I started assembling. In the future I will pay closer attention as my plan was not to take away the boss from another group.....but there was a spotter there and I'm sure when I assembled my group he did the same. We just need to have cool heads about it. KSing is bad enough but Boss KSing is unacceptable. We don't need to ever get to that point.
Crom: Raven3 Arawn: Raven, Nightingale Sulis: Raven4, Rhianon: Raven5


Re: General good manners
#5Disagree with some points.
If your group is assembling for Falgren and you aren't all there, I don't see why my group has to wait behind yer group. On an honest lvl, if we are ready and you aren't...it just sucks for you. I mean, if you are there...and you attack then we will let you have it..but if yer not set up or are waiting on others.. It's the exact same thing as two people being close to a mob. That's not a KS.
I'm not not trying to instigate or cause issues, but on a root lvl gather yer groups for Felgren 10min before he spawns and lay yer claim. If you don't, another group will and 1-2 person's from your group being there first doesn't count as being "first in line" if my group of 7 is ready to attack it.
I try to talk in say and sort this out, and I many times have pulled my guys out in lieu of other clans...but that said...
If yer not set up and we are... Its ridiculous to make us wait for you.
My aim is to be fair at all times, to try to talk things out and try to be civil, but there are more clans that can take bosses now and people need to be fair or things will get crazy. It's my goal to be fair, and to be helpful, but The entire server has to realize that more than just 1-2 clans are now looking for Felgren.
Be ready. Or kill the next one.
If your group is assembling for Falgren and you aren't all there, I don't see why my group has to wait behind yer group. On an honest lvl, if we are ready and you aren't...it just sucks for you. I mean, if you are there...and you attack then we will let you have it..but if yer not set up or are waiting on others.. It's the exact same thing as two people being close to a mob. That's not a KS.
I'm not not trying to instigate or cause issues, but on a root lvl gather yer groups for Felgren 10min before he spawns and lay yer claim. If you don't, another group will and 1-2 person's from your group being there first doesn't count as being "first in line" if my group of 7 is ready to attack it.
I try to talk in say and sort this out, and I many times have pulled my guys out in lieu of other clans...but that said...
If yer not set up and we are... Its ridiculous to make us wait for you.
My aim is to be fair at all times, to try to talk things out and try to be civil, but there are more clans that can take bosses now and people need to be fair or things will get crazy. It's my goal to be fair, and to be helpful, but The entire server has to realize that more than just 1-2 clans are now looking for Felgren.
Be ready. Or kill the next one.

Teaweasel 133 Druid (Arawn, Retired)
Best Build is a 30/30 in Thinking for yerself

Re: General good manners
#6Falgren can be taken down by three. Is preference given to 7 because they have the numbers? Is it who hits first or who happens to be standing on the spawn spot? It's a sticky situation for sure. As I type Bada and CR are camped our waiting for Falgen to spawn. In other worlds this situation becomes a FFA (Free For All) situation like the Christmas wolf. This isn't a pretty picture and I'm not sure it would be good for our world.if my group of 7 is ready to attack it.
At this point the leaders need to step up. IMHO Dragons for your clan is pointless if you start a KSing frenzy.
I'm not attacking anyone but cooler heads need to prevail.
Crom: Raven3 Arawn: Raven, Nightingale Sulis: Raven4, Rhianon: Raven5


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#7Well as far as I know there's only 4 people left in clan who don't have full sets maybe if a similer situation arises they could just have a mixed group and everyone else helps
Was in a mixed group earlier and that went smoothly docozz arrived late and still got a drop
Was in a mixed group earlier and that went smoothly docozz arrived late and still got a drop
Doing Magic stuff since June 2011
Re: General good manners
#8I need to train further to be able to solo Falgren to avoid all the problems. I will then be the sole distributor for dragon frags. Or perhaps, Adm in should consider spwaning 10 Falgrens at different areas at the same time. 

Re: General good manners
#9It doesn't have to "just suck" for anyone. Ask a simple question to those sparsely assembled, "Are you just waiting for the rest of your group to get here or do you not have enough to take him down at the moment?"If your group is assembling for Falgren and you aren't all there, I don't see why my group has to wait behind yer group. On an honest lvl, if we are ready and you aren't...it just sucks for you.
Usually this type of question will resolve the situation simply and amicably.
As Raven / Night said, " Cooler heads do need to prevail," because if they don't, I can assure you that Serenity and cooperating clans, won't be on the losing side of the ensuing battle for bosses.
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Re: General good manners
#10The point isn't if your 4 people are gonna 4-man Felgren, if that's yer prerogative then whatever, my point has to do with if yer not all gather'd if yer team isn't ready I shouldn't have to wait. If that means adding our members to your team and giving a healer or a tank that's fine... I got no issues with inter clan groups, that's normal on Arawn.
I don't have any issue talking, I always talk. And if clans just want to split the spawn times, (I.E we get this one, you get next one, you get next) that's fine with me.
I do have issue with people talking unfathomable, and if my people are talking unfathomable, I wanna know, so I can smack their heads and tell them to shut up. But I keep walking into these shout e-peen matchs full of 12-14 year old Internet tough guys...yelling about clans and it's so lame.
Can we just PvP this server nerd-angst in 3 weeks and keep unfathomable in perspective?
I don't have any issue talking, I always talk. And if clans just want to split the spawn times, (I.E we get this one, you get next one, you get next) that's fine with me.
I do have issue with people talking unfathomable, and if my people are talking unfathomable, I wanna know, so I can smack their heads and tell them to shut up. But I keep walking into these shout e-peen matchs full of 12-14 year old Internet tough guys...yelling about clans and it's so lame.
Can we just PvP this server nerd-angst in 3 weeks and keep unfathomable in perspective?

Teaweasel 133 Druid (Arawn, Retired)
Best Build is a 30/30 in Thinking for yerself
