Celtic Heroes

Most of the time the high lvls who win drops they dont 'need' are helping other high lvls. Also, the rules stated that the ppl who dont need can still roll so there is something for their efforts. Otherwise, they can choose to ignore the boss and let everyone else try and defeat it. Idk about you, but bosses are much easier with Calla or Callu tanking and some 185+ dps.

But im curious why change rules cause of level, sure if your high and a person who doesnt need a crown gets it you'll be bummed, but so are us lower levels when people pass these drops off to people who werent even at the fight! Why change rules for high level drops? Ive seen 3 urns go to some people who just give to a friend who wast there, i agree with helping everyone but not at the expense of other players.

I say if you're going to give someone a drop people at fight should have priority, without them you wouldnt have a drop at all...

And since when did dl wep make any difference to a tanks ability, and a boost to dmg isnt exactly needed at the given time. I simply ask why do we need to restrict dicing further, to benefit a few people?

A weapon has nothing to do with armour.. Bjrogue got his before his armour. Basically what you're saying is that if I'm a level 200 rogue in full frozen, buddy here 180 in full dl is more eligible for his weapon and I should pass my drops off to him, and the next 5 rogues in line. When will it be my turn? 5 months later? Also want to point out the offhand is pretty lame, it takes 4 crowns and 4 horns which can be used to give another player a main hand weapon and another player their bp, that would help our world much better than a single person getting one offhand.

A weapon has nothing to do with armour.. Bjrogue got his before his armour. Basically what you're saying is that if I'm a level 200 rogue in full frozen, buddy here 180 in full dl is more eligible for his weapon and I should pass my drops off to him, and the next 5 rogues in line. When will it be my turn? 5 months later? Also want to point out the offhand is pretty lame, it takes 4 crowns and 4 horns which can be used to give another player a main hand weapon and another player their bp, that would help our world much better than a single person getting one offhand.

Also want to add, if a boss is 170 an req is 160, they're eligible to get a drop there no matter what it is long as it is the correct class. Same goes for hrungnir, clearly I'm the correct level but what if a godly item drops and I win it, I'm 3 levels away from being able to wear it, those 3 levels take much longer than 163-170 would so should I pass it off to another player just because he levelled higher than I did?

Making this post after talking with more high lvls that unless you have full dragonlord armour horn and crown drops will be diced between these players so they can get their weapons first and not by players who only have couple of dl pieces of armour.

Uh, don't you need horns for the BP?

I can understand doing this for crowns, which are needed for the weapon and offhand, but I still need horns for my Dragonlord Robe.

breastplate (170) 4 urn, 4 horn
weapon (175) 4 idol, 4 crown
offhand (180) 4 horn, 4 crown

Personally, I don't like adding more rules. I was going to give up my horns to BD once she got her crown, until Emmi and I leveled and we needed them for our Robe. She had more stuff, so I gave her an egg and my 2 horns so she could get full DL armour. If BD still needs a crown, I would give if I got one. If I hadn't lent given so much stuff away over the past few months, maybe I would already have full DL too...

BD and Randall and others have given me stuff too. A lot of people do share.

If others aren't doing this and are hoarding stuff, then I would think that should be taken up on a clan by clan level. I think we know who the people are, so why can't the chiefs and generals enforce the codes of conduct that we have all agreed upon instead of adding more rules to an already complicated system?

Or at least leave the horns out of it and make it so that if you are over 175 and have full DL, then you can't dice for eggs (you should have paid back your eggs already, I would think - if not, pay them back with something else).

We might also ban trading, as that encourages hoarding.

Ye maybe on crowns cause they are rare but what I'm saying is why allow a low lvl to dice on horns when not even at the lvl requirement when others are and they need more !

Im curious, why cant we collect these for when we reach the level? I have done this my entire playing career... There are level requirements on bosses for a reason, because you simply need to be that level to get a drop...

If i was told, even though i met the requirements for a boss that i couldnt roll because i was too low. I wouldnt be happy.

I have currently got green: 1 idol, 1 egg 2 gems 2 urns, and dl gloves, and a purple urn 2 gems and dl gloves. I got all my gems free, 1 purple egg off heli, thats it, i dont get called to fights, even though i try to help with snorri and sreng, Even though i know i CANT dice for a drop. Unless special circumstances allow. Now i cant find a single player willing to lend me a purple urn. They always ask for trades, green for purple, blue for purple.

Now ive offered my idol to a few people, ive offered my egg to a few people, i gave away a green horn! I only keep what im within 10 levels for... As everyone should.

I dont see the reason people should start restricting the drops any further than the level requirements are. Crowns should be within 10 levels of needing it. Because if your like me you like having the items before you get to that level.

It would be a slap in the face to lower lvls who are there all the time camping, therefore spending less time lvling. It is like saying thanks Emmi for all the heals and calls to bosses. But you should have levelled instead of helping us higher levels. Really feeling the love, thanks.

i find it crazy that all this comes about because one player happened to get to a fight and win a horn. You say he is 163 and therefore wont need it for a while? i went from 160 to 170 in like a week.

also, as i understand it, the person referenced did offer the horn to a clannie.

we have a very simple and graceful system right now. Dice your color and no selling. We voted this (more than once). if someone has extras, it will end up with someone who can use it eventually. We need to be careful about making any kind of subjective list and priorities. Things will become unenforceable and much of the cooperation we see now will fall away. Also, i would beware trying to use the concept of need - that would get messy two (i.e. do i have to give up my horns to someone who doesnt have their BP yet?)

the rule right now is simple and enforceable. You need to be within 10 levels of the boss, be there at target lock, and you can dice your color.

the only viable changes i could see are (and for the record, i think these are NOT good suggestions, except possibly the first):
if you dont have the quest yet, you dice once (those who have the quest dice 2x)
or
you need to be at the level of the boss or above to dice
or
for bosses that can be taken by one group - the drops go to that group (which i think is terrible idea, but would solve the issue of 25 lower level characters getting to dice off the efforts of 5 high levels who kill the boss).

as i said, i think we have fairly good rules now that are well understood. our frustrations should be directed at OTM who made a stupid quest that takes a long time and is extremely boring to complete, not at each other, or some poor player who happened to get lucky.

the only viable changes i could see are

Another simple change that will limit a few people at the fight and doesn't really have any downsides (that I can see) is only allowing people who are there at the start to dice, not at lock.

We don't often start unless we have enough people, so these 'late' people are truly extra to the fight.