Celtic Heroes

@Gabee I said it was not even my hope or wish and you still do not see the entire pattern.

Most people stayed in Uskoci out of fear that they had no chance of getting into Bada and would ruin relations with Uskoci, effectively shutting them out of endgame.

I never really spoke to tea much so I am not sure if he ever noticed it. Perhaps he did, I do not know.

So here is some deeper analysis of the situation that really does indicate what res is founded on and what the people in it are after. Badabing broke apart, originally just the "leaders" and they took our bank as well. I do not understand, how can you be in a clan that was founded on scamming? If you truly wanted peace, Uskoci could have just left the bada break up alone and continue on their way.

I am quite certain they would have had far more success with dragonlord bosses, eventually outfitting the clan. Uskoci without the ex-bada members had enough people as the clans that killed Mordris. Uskoci also gave up their identity and respect to join res.

Such actions, in my opinion, are the result of desperation. The same desperation that would lead a few people to over bolasing, intentionally aoeing, joining a clan to get drops faster, etc. The true extent of the desperation is found in the fact that a large amount of Uskoci joined the small amount of res. Why not ask them to join? Is it because they had control of people with drops?

I know whoever replies will hide behind the "it was time for peace" but did you really expect peace jumping ship to a few people who were willing to steal dl drops? It almost seems like: "Hey, we are going to steal this one more time and then be good people again."

I honestly had more respect for Uskoci. They had a few disagreeable people but the clan had a fairly good leadership and was founded on friendship, respect, and trust.

Dont think you knew what was going on in uskoci to be able to make a comment like this. Only those in uskoci who left know. And only those who suffered so much under bada oppression understand. Easy for us outsiders to say this and that without really knowing what actually happened.

Smells, what I can't argue with is perspective. All that can be said is that sometimes perceptions are different depending on the person.

As for respect, I will continue to do pretty much as I have done in the past. Most players I can respect and I think the ones that I can respect me as well. If I find that I can't respect someone, I can always ignore them.

@Gabee I said it was not even my hope or wish and you still do not see the entire pattern.

Most people stayed in Uskoci out of fear that they had no chance of getting into Bada and would ruin relations with Uskoci, effectively shutting them out of endgame.

I never really spoke to tea much so I am not sure if he ever noticed it. Perhaps he did, I do not know.

So here is some deeper analysis of the situation that really does indicate what res is founded on and what the people in it are after. Badabing broke apart, originally just the "leaders" and they took our bank as well. I do not understand, how can you be in a clan that was founded on scamming? If you truly wanted peace, Uskoci could have just left the bada break up alone and continue on their way.

I am quite certain they would have had far more success with dragonlord bosses, eventually outfitting the clan. Uskoci without the ex-bada members had enough people as the clans that killed Mordris. Uskoci also gave up their identity and respect to join res.

Such actions, in my opinion, are the result of desperation. The same desperation that would lead a few people to over bolasing, intentionally aoeing, joining a clan to get drops faster, etc. The true extent of the desperation is found in the fact that a large amount of Uskoci joined the small amount of res. Why not ask them to join? Is it because they had control of people with drops?

I know whoever replies will hide behind the "it was time for peace" but did you really expect peace jumping ship to a few people who were willing to steal dl drops? It almost seems like: "Hey, we are going to steal this one more time and then be good people again."

I honestly had more respect for Uskoci. They had a few disagreeable people but the clan had a fairly good leadership and was founded on friendship, respect, and trust.

Dont think you knew what was going on in uskoci to be able to make a comment like this. Only those in uskoci who left know. And only those who suffered so much under bada oppression understand. Easy for us outsiders to say this and that without really knowing what actually happened.

Are you referring to the last statement? It was not only my observations but I was told that by quite a few Uskoci members. Some of which are in resurgence right now.

Perhaps you or any other res member may explain more and answer the other questions I mentioned?

I try to stay off the forums but I feel a lot is being left unsaid here:

Doc u wonder y uskoci didnt just leave bada break-up alone. Well if u dont remember uskoci had broken up before bada, thus there was not a 'strong uskoci' that had the ability to kill dl bosses and, later on, mordris. In addition, Phur had been planning on merging with some uskoci members anyway (the reason bada broke up), its not like they only decided to join phur after bada break-up.

There was no large amount of uskoci joining resurg suddenly. Only a few joined initially. Most joined over the next couple of weeks as the chaos cleared; many people simply followed their friends to resurg, they were not picking the stronger clan because at the time bada was still dominant at dl bosses, and they were so for a couple weeks.

Even though uskoci members started the over-bolasing tactic bada replicated them after a day or two; nobody involved with dl bosses is innocent. Any who claim so, disregard less of clan, has most likely attempted to reset a boss; I know I have, yet I also know people who order others to taunt/root/bolas/calm, some in bada, some in resurg

I also notice that you believe uskoci members gave up their identity to join resurg? That seems quite shallow, are you saying that a few blue letters above one's name is their identity? Then does that mean that a clanless person has no identity? Or maybe they lose their identity when they join a clan? A person should not be judged on the name above their heads, I have always maintained this. Judge by person by their actions not a word above their name in coloured letters

Is that all your questions? Any more?

Let me now have the pleasure of asking you or another bada member one:
if you are replicating Bubble's philosophy then why is there such an abundance of hate and judgement? From what I hear of Bubbles he would not hate anyone based on their clan yet many resurg members face dislike and hate from bada daily. Currently I can think of 2, maybe 3 bada that are still friendly to me after I left, some ignore me, some lie to my face... why do you judge us on some blue letters? why do you speak out against us on forums if you are embracing Bubble's ideaology?

btw, try to spot any 'it was time for peace' comments that you said I would hide behind...

Yo vis I guess you should change your subject to " More resurgence and bada bing drama" bc thats what your post turned into somehow lol

Yo vis I guess you should change your subject to " More resurgence and bada bing drama" bc thats what your post turned into somehow lol

hahaha, perhaps we should move our fighting to a new thread, we ruining the welcome home party

Yo vis I guess you should change your subject to " More resurgence and bada bing drama" bc thats what your post turned into somehow lol

Ikr. Topic gone get locked soon from off topic .-.

Well from my point of view from when usk did have members a few people were camping to help the rest while some just power leveled i used to camp the same two bosses and level in the boggin room between them and down the corridor farming bones shards which many old usk still owe me
Whenever i would shout in clan for example priest due in 5 mins i would get no help
When it spawned i would say 5 star priest up now or 4 star priest up none would help
I even tried pls help me kill place holder so that bada lose timings on it
I would still get no help why? Well vinci would be on a lix an the rest would be camping snorri
The only guy in usk who was trying to help kit out his fellow clannies was jayle
Been a mage and unable to even kill a ph i decided to help my clannies best way i could not by leveling but by farming bone shards i put my own leveling on hold for the good of the clan what did i recieve in return?
Thx for the kit and a see you later were off they can give us better stuff
So now ive gone back to leveling im now selling drops and as far as im concerned rez owe me 30grand shards and I'll be collecting in flesh once i level up

Collecting in flesh? I don't think murdering gamers will fix anything. Or did you mean collecting in pixels? Maybe you were just being a drama queen...ya, that's it.

Thank you to drizzt for bringing a dramatic flare to what was the first actual beneficial and mature conversation on the topic between the two sides.

Well from my point of view from when usk did have members a few people were camping to help the rest while some just power leveled i used to camp the same two bosses and level in the boggin room between them and down the corridor farming bones shards which many old usk still owe me
Whenever i would shout in clan for example priest due in 5 mins i would get no help
When it spawned i would say 5 star priest up now or 4 star priest up none would help
I even tried pls help me kill place holder so that bada lose timings on it
I would still get no help why? Well vinci would be on a lix an the rest would be camping snorri
The only guy in usk who was trying to help kit out his fellow clannies was jayle

Before the resurg split, I was in Bada camping bosses on average 10-12 hours a day. When i wasn't online I was waking up in the middle of the night to lock bosses because other people wouldn't log in or were too busy lixing themselves or their alts. Because I was there, I feel I can comment on what Drizzt said.

My perception is that this is true. I saw Jaeyl at almost every boss spawn that I was at, and not many other regular Uskoci people. It seemed like if Uskoci showed up at a boss it was either just Jaeyl, or it was the entire clan. There was no in between. Many of the people that Bada recruited from Usk did not know any of the boss spawn times, or even the location of the bosses. We were pretty shocked to be honest. I have no idea what was going on in their clan and I'm not going to judge them, but as an outsider this is what I saw.

As a side note, when I was in bada the thing that I was most afraid of was that Usk would get organized. The amount of people in bada that camped was very small, and Usk as a clan was very large. If Usk made a concerted effort to camp, they could have camped multiple bosses at the same time and denied bada access to dl bosses, whether they had dl gear or no. Bada was not large enough to sustain a long term assault on multiple fronts. If Usk did this for long enough, probably only a month, bada may have gotten frustrated and given up. That's just my opinion though.