Celtic Heroes

Well thank God OTM gave us nothing worth spending plat on. I guess they wanted to help us all save our plat since we have pledged not to buy any.

We just have to give into the fact that we are the hated class and play with our challenges.

Thanks for nothing OTM.... Literally!

it is such bs, i cant think of a single lux item in this bs samhain shop id want to use...

each patch and update again druids get worse and worse. i liked update 3 better, cuz i only needed 200-300 sigils then. where i need over 2000 now at least.

ive played ch for more then 3 yrs now. watched it go from super unbalanced and OP rogues to more balanced, except still OP rogues, to worse balanced then ever for druids, but STILL OP rogues.
in update 2 it was good, unfathomable was nice. except mages couldnt do unfathomable, druids had no need at bosses cuz everyone could pot or idol their way through em and on top of that druids did not even slightly nice dmg, rangers where useless and warriors could only tank. and off course rogues where OP, got all kills everytime, ksd everyone all the time, etc.
in update 3 mages got more power, wich slightly balanced some stuff out. every class experienced energy issues, but druids the most, needing over 200 sigils to be a decent support druid. gladly the reward got higher, made our heals needed with idol timer. i remember being able to overheal pyrus by my own in the end, wich was exactly how it should be. rangers where still not dps wise comparable, warriors still just tank. now how bout rogues? well the usual: best class in game to be, most wanted, strongest, best solo lvlers, etc.
in update 4 druids went downhill big time, sure on bosses we could do good dps, but support druids couldnt overheal bosses anymore making druids a secondary need for bosses. rangers got their time to be a need at bosses, always had to have bolas. druids energy issues grew (exactly like i said would happen half way update 3 btw). warriors became epic tankers and also a big help for adds and boss. mages became very good in solo lvling and in dpsing and always needed a few. and rogues? well what u think? obviously again overpowered, best solo lvlers, best lockers on mobs and bosses, best dps still (with endgame gear and overall) and what would a world be if they werent getting best event items and mord and hrung items too.

how come i see only negatives on druids this update? while all other classes have grown (except maybe warrior wich has remained quite equal and a good class).

Yrck, although of course your points are valid, I must say that druids have grown immensely recently.....

I have also been playing a LONG while (since October 2011), and agree that originally druids were crap, however don't forget that they were the only ones (along with rangers) who could solo every boss in the game.

In v3, druids rocked. They were needed more than ever, and since not many druids were mains, druids were given excellent gear and wonderful selections of drops from bosses. Since people couldn't pot their way through bosses, druids were in EXTREMELY high demand, and our skills were quite good for almost every purpose: druids could solo most everything.

V4 greatly improved druids (in case you didn't notice). Our vines and bark effects were increased dramatically, and since most of our skills are useless, the small selection of valuable skills allow us to easily make effective builds. You speak of druids as though our dps sucks: they don't. There have been times when I have outdpsed our clan's top mage on bosses higher lvls than I. Druids have become much more versatile, as we can now effectively max 6-8 skills. I personally have maxed Touch, Bark, Calm, Strike, Vines, Storm, Bees, and Roots. Our dragonlord armor is probably the best set of all the classes, as it includes excellent hp and energy buffs along with wonderful skills. Also it looks wonderful. Do not forget that our energy issues could be a LOT worse. Since our primary damage skills are DOT, we can simply root, stand out of combat, and regenerate 2-3 times while still doing damage. We are blessed with a POISON DOT SKILL, improving our damage by allowing us to effectively kill mobs with OP resists. Druids are by far the most versatile class, and I for one am glad with their improvements.

Regen, u may have misinterpreted YRck's post.

He's not complaining about damage on v4. Its more on support druids in general and energy cost.
Most ppl choose druid as a m ain probably becoz they wan some healing / support factor apart from pure damage like mages.

Granted Druids were given a good boost in damage skills, introducing poison dot which works wonderful on bosses and also being able to solo better than before, this update does seem to have taken a irony switch on druids being damage as a main choice and support as secondary.

A)
Yes druids can heal and still top the charts on best heals, but it is usually insufficient in keeping tanks alive. There is a general concern of how N.T has reached its peak at 50/35. Granted there are new items dat give some form of direct boost, it doesn't feel enough to keep up with the current game standards as damage can always be increased with new weapons but not so much with N.T with its boost items. Don't forget all damage skills were given a boost in this update but so has mobs toughness and damage, hence N.T really should have been given a boost.

Btw, I don't necessary agree with having one druid is sufficient in keep tank alive theory. But an increase in N.T is required

B)
It is so not funny that druids with sigils can keep their energy pool when being a damage druid but will almost definitely ran out of energy when being a support/heal druid on boss fights. If anything, it should be the other way around. The energy required to heal / support is really out of proportion. Let druids be able to do their jobs, G.D. It.

C)
Fair enough, all classes have their own broken skills but IMO, S.O.L and E.H are like two tight slaps on all druids face.
S.O.L has such a unique importance with the new mechanics of this update, in fact, this redefines druids of its support importance. But being broken, hardly anyone uses it.
E.H is rubbish for 35 skill points investment...

In short, Druids can cheer for damage for V4 but there is a lot (and I do mean a lot) of grief for being a support druid and energy concerns.

regen i am just saying in general how valuable our class has been. in update 3 i said we where nice, at the cost of quite some energy already.
since the end of update 3 i have been mostly a full dps druid. dps has increased indeed, but it is slow. i probably lost over 2 lvls in my 180-190 lvling to rogues being able to kill and lock faster then me, tons of elixers being wasted on rogues locking all specials in cave while i only catch 4, maybe 5 special mobs to gain my 1% of xp that lix.

like i said we where indeed needed at bosses in update 3, and where having great heals, but energy issues also started there.

half way update 3 i told everyone that bothered to ask for my opinion that in the next update our energy issues will get worse and suck a lot. posted several times that if no offhands with 200 energy gain where available and braces with 75 each, druids will suffer like they never had before. voila, here we are, we are suffering because OTM refused to listen.

as for this update, i didnt mean that we should be able to solo overheal these bosses, but with 2-3 druids we should be able to take them down, wich is not the case.
our dps has increased, but it is still slow dps and if multiple druids have vines 50, a battle for who gets vines on the longest. i currently have a druid that uses vines at 50 in my clan, blocking my 50 vines when he overcasts it, it takes approx 25% of the dmg my vine CAN do away, just by the fact i have to time my vines to outcast his.

also, how in hell can u max 6 skills? i can max vines, strike, swarm and storm, then have 30ish points left in touch.

an FYI: druids have WAY more energy issues as dps, swarm is 916 energy and quite fast recasting too. stom and vines both 600, strike 328 but fast casting.

also since when can we solo that many bosses? i cant solo unfathomable on my druid... except the regular whisp bosses that i was able to solo at update 3 already.

My love for druids is at an all time high. Just wish krazykatz didn't level so fast.

My love for druids is at an all time high. Just wish krazykatz didn't level so fast.

+1

This update have made druids op (in a way) with full energy i can get the kill on priest and king 6s and once sreng 6s all of these over high lvl mages and ranger who do the most dps. When versing a mage to get the kill its really just about how often he has his attune on. Sometimes you lose sometimes you win.

I personally love being a druid, not for the heals but for the dps. What makes the heroic energy and pots used worthwhile is when you see "Godzilla007 killed (example) Gold won:1000000". Fortunately i get that quite a lot but when i see that OTM are more bias towards the melee classes it makes me sad. After all mages and druid probably spend the most plat for sigils and amount of plat used for bosses compared to the other classes. After all we are the ones with paper armor and huge energy costs.

I just find it that with out amazing dps on bosses it doesn't work as well on normal mobs when lvling. It is really annoying to just sit and watch the enemy hp slowly tick down knowing your auto attack wont do anything especially if you have a book. Only reason i would bother to lvl is for hrung/mordy drops and the 180 skill cap rise. I most particularly want 175 as i get full dl, natures touch helm and possibly lightning strike skull :3

All in all i hope Christmas favors us casters more

@Perl
When regen said maxing 6skills he means having them at lvl 35 not lvl 50.

The point of my post is my druid had nothing to buy.
Everyone gets excited about new lux items and then to see that our class was completely left out was disappointing.

Then to add the fact that the only event boss is level 160 and his drops are melee based was again disappointing.

So other that wearing a stupid deer head it seems our class was not considered.
Again showing a clear bias towards Rogues.

The point of my post is my druid had nothing to buy.
Everyone gets excited about new lux items and then to see that our class was completely left out was disappointing.

Then to add the fact that the only event boss is level 160 and his drops are melee based was again disappointing.

So other that wearing a stupid deer head it seems our class was not considered.
Again showing a clear bias towards Rogues.

Except melee druids
i have one druid that im not sure if he still has the 4th highest heal on all worlds (also got in on like lvl 173, hes not always using that heal tho)
he got our first hungrir kill, great dps, using melee too (with haste elix the melee is great with just 5 str), i believe he could use the items
also we got a mage that is a melee with dl wand + a caster (not sure if still melee, he can get to 1.4k dmg tho)

but yes for casters it has no help, except the talisman, the talisman is great for everyone, better for melees due the 100 magic dmg, but the 35 armour is much more effective on druids/mages