Celtic Heroes

Are you being serious?

Tea you must not spend much time in the catacombs. Having a ranger hang out on the stairs waiting for Shiver to show up is common.

The only reason to go into DC for me is Shiver, but it's a real hard boss and I find myself facing the lesser red's primarily. I don't think the rationalization of "everyone is doing it" stands up. It's glitching, exploiting and cheating and in terms of gaming ettiquette that's not a far jump from KS'ing and Scamming.

I have talked to our clan rangers, they have confirmed this is a widespread practice, but I think clans and clan leaders should make it a point to stop this. It's bad for the game.

I spend time in the catacombs because the boss rooms can have some interesting drops. And it is frustrating to be denied access to the Avatars room because somebody is bowing shiver.

The best way to change bad policy is to implement it as written.

All systems have glitches. If somebody wants to take 45 min to kill shiver one arrow at a time, well that may not be a bad thing. Its how the US beat the Britts in the the revolution.

I'm neutral on the topic if it didn't interfere with other peoples play.

I would just like to say while there's nothing ""wrong"" with exploiting a glitch such as this as it doesn't actually steal or hurt others. It would be proper to at least let support know so it can be fixed in the future and also we, well maybe not me per-say but our server is strong enough to kill shiver properly. If there's nobody on to help sure kill it like that but first try to party and kill properly I would say.

Teaweasel, like I said b4, if u have a unfathomable ass comment to make jus pm me instead fighting about it to every1.. We get enough drama from u in game... Every1 fed up with ur unfathomable.. Like I said .. The more u keep talking bout this the more ppl are innards start to read it. So shut up an don't spend half the day talking unfathomable on forums talking bout every little thing. Play the game and enjoy it. It's called a game! To have fun! Not to talk unfathomable becuz ur behind a screen!

Also tea, umm all ur rangers ask me to help them on shiver, everytime I do it it's with Celtic reign now, so dont act like ur the best clan in game and don't "cheat"!

I would just like to say while there's nothing ""wrong"" with exploiting a glitch such as this as it doesn't actually steal or hurt others. It would be proper to at least let support know so it can be fixed in the future and also we, well maybe not me per-say but our server is strong enough to kill shiver properly. If there's nobody on to help sure kill it like that but first try to party and kill properly I would say.

I totally agree with u kimmy and that's y I said let's stop talking about this subject but ppl jus keep bringing it up...

I would just like to say while there's nothing ""wrong"" with exploiting a glitch such as this as it doesn't actually steal or hurt others. It would be proper to at least let support know so it can be fixed in the future and also we, well maybe not me per-say but our server is strong enough to kill shiver properly. If there's nobody on to help sure kill it like that but first try to party and kill properly I would say.

There is something wrong with it. When you look around at the very few players on Arawn who have fought hard for their meteoric gear, you are filled with some awe and respect...players like Frank or Ubs with their Astral Helms, or Drizzt and Night, my point is these items are a badge of honor and a badge of accomplishment.

But if our server allows and actually thinks it's ok for rangers or any other class to cheat like this and trick the system into getting them unearned and totally *** fake accomplished gear...then it cheapens the worth of all server accomplishments. And you will not feel the same lvl of anything in viewing meteoric gear because of the sincere doubt it was gotten from *** cheating.

It's like the steroid era in Baseball. All of the players got serious lvls of HomeRuns and power numbers, but none of them will ever reach the hall of fame and EVERYONE who played in that era is always under suspicion. By letting Silvos or anyone like him, including CelticReign Rangers, cheat...you are wrecking the system of honor, accomplishment and what's real in this game. And you will all make a real awesome badge of honor that is meteoric gear turn into a sleazy joke.

Tea;
You are advocating hard work and effort and it frustrates you when others get something for nothing. It cheapens the experience for all.
I wholeheartedly agree and understand. But I think you are jousting with windmills on this topic. Why rant on people who exploit the archers range behind a defensive barrier? This is how wars were won. It is a legitimate strategy. If you want to rant on people who do not deserve the gear they have, how about ranting on people who use cash to purchase super experience pots or gold to buy that shiver drop?

There are lots of other ways people shortcut effort. I don't mind the shortcuts, I just want to be recognized as someone who has not done it. Feel free to shortcut the system just dont compare yourself with others who did it the hard way. Currently there is no way to know the difference.

Tea;
You are advocating hard work and effort and it frustrates you when others get something for nothing. It cheapens the experience for all.
I wholeheartedly agree and understand. But I think you are jousting with windmills on this topic. Why rant on people who exploit the archers range behind a defensive barrier? This is how wars were won. It is a legitimate strategy. If you want to rant on people who do not deserve the gear they have, how about ranting on people who use cash to purchase super experience pots or gold to buy that shiver drop?

There are lots of other ways people shortcut effort. I don't mind the shortcuts, I just want to be recognized as someone who has not done it. Feel free to shortcut the system just dont compare yourself with others who did it the hard way. Currently there is no way to know the difference.

I still disagree Brother, respectively speaking about the "legitimate strategy." If you buy IAP's (In App Purchases) it's certainly a short cut, but that shortcut supports the game and the company and can by some rationalization be made to increasing the betterment of the product. It is without a doubt the short cut to the real work, and that can't be denied, but there is a gain traded toward the future of the game.

This action is going out of the game's true mechanics and exploiting a flaw in the gaming code system to cheat. It isn't a short-cut, it's a true out of bounds arena where you not only gain, but any other person who has done it the right way is pulled into your action passively. It's not a legitimate strategy, they are glitching the mob. Shivercowl can fire ranged attacks and could in a real game scenario fire over said barricades. It's a lvl 100 6 star boss. They aren't drawing up a plan and using ingenuity to craft a better battle plan. This is glitching the mechanics to no longer correctly function and then gaining from it. It's like stacking a deck in apples, or using inside-information in trading, it's setting up a scenario in which you can not possibly lose and then "playing."

I don't feel like I'm jousting with windmill's because Arawn has always been a community run tightly by it's leaders and it's players. And we as a community have worked to eliminate KS'ing, scamming and various other malcontents. This to me is just another issue of bad player ettiquette poisoning our game. And I argue against it because it lowers our overall worth. And it's something we all can control.

Tea, what areu saying when u say it's like baseball, I'm pretty sure alot of the players who used performance enhancing drugs are all going to hall of fame. Are you telling me you dont think bonds will go to hall of fame? And it takes about an hour or longer to kill it and u could kill deadroot and rockbelly in the same amount of time! Idk why u think it's cheating and we get free stuff! It doesn't drop 3 ranger drops everytime! I have nvr got 1 drop from him! And how often does shver spawn? Like never! So stop saying it's a hack to all rangers and we aren't really earning are meteoirc! Cuz I ve only got gloves! So this isn't a 100% best hack and u automatically get free meteoric armor! It's not like that! Drop it!