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even so, a thicker atmosphere and the like which he mentions is ludicrous. thicker atmosphere would either a) kill us or b) cause global warming to the extent of killing us



it is absurd to take the bible word for word as fact as to the history of the earh

You are absolutely right on your first claim. I do take the Bible word for word when it is conferring history. This is not in the Bible, though, as I said earlier.

The age approximation is correct, but the rest I have not seen anywhere in the Bible... It is probably a scientific hypothesis...

that happens to be totally incorrect... people dont die because of the environment, we die due to apoptosis of the cells

Not sure you should bring logic to a crazy fight....

even so, a thicker atmosphere and the like which he mentions is ludicrous. thicker atmosphere would either a) kill us or b) cause global warming to the extent of killing us



it is absurd to take the bible word for word as fact as to the history of the earh

You are absolutely right on your first claim. I do take the Bible word for word when it is conferring history. This is not in the Bible, though, as I said earlier.

Well unfortunately at just about every single turn the evidence shows that the bible is wrong.

Earth young - few thousand years? Wrong - off by a factor of one million.

Humans from Adam and Eve - woman created from a rib? No just no. Overwhelming fossil and DNA evidence to the contrary.

Mass exodus from Egypt? Not even close. There would have been tons of local records of this as well as archeological evidence (trash, encampments, etc) - none of which exists.

In fact 99% of the historical 'facts' in the bible are demonstratably false.

Well unfortunately at just about every single turn the evidence shows that the bible is wrong.

Earth young - few thousand years? Wrong - off by a factor of one million.

Humans from Adam and Eve - woman created from a rib? No just no. Overwhelming fossil and DNA evidence to the contrary.

Mass exodus from Egypt? Not even close. There would have been tons of local records of this as well as archeological evidence (trash, encampments, etc) - none of which exists.

In fact 99% of the historical 'facts' in the bible are demonstratably false.

Evidence and logical, valid and clear arguments for your above claims please.

Not all Christians believe the earth is only a few thousand years old.
The true age of the earth has not been proven. It could very well be fairly young.
Certain things in the Bible are taken figuratively, other things are miracles by an all powerful God according to the belief. If someone is all powerful anything is possible and your DNA arguments are irrelevant.
DNA is irrelevant anyway because looking at modern DNA would say nothing about whether or not Eve was taken from Adam's ribs.
The mass Exodus took place a long time ago. It was through a desert and most of the equipment they used would have been things like animal skins that would biodegrade.
I am not an archeologist myself but I am aware of a large amount of archeological evidence that at least many of the historical events actually happened, making the Bible demonstrably historically accurate to a degree.

Now, the Bible have a degree of accuracy does not prove that there is an all powerful God, but it certainly disproves your idiotic claim that it is 99% historically inaccurate. That is just more crap that you pulled from your magic bunny hat of hatred toward anything that doesn't agree with you.

I would also like to address the whole debate on how right or wrong the actions of the christian God are.

This is a very common topic of discussion where people who allegedly don't believe in God pick at his actions and the Christians try to justify them. Pardon me for saying this but: you do realize that that is completely irrelevant to whether God actually exists or not, don't you?

Honestly, hate to burst your bubbles, but just because you don't like the way someone does things, does not make them not exist. I really hate Hitler but I don't think he isn't real because I don't like what he did. That is a terrible argument and if you don't believe in God I would honestly expect you to come up with something better. To me it looks more like you do believe in God and are just mad at him.

If you don't believe in God, you have no right to judge his actions.

Sorry if that little rant offended you.

I'm not religious myself but, the way I see it: if God really does exist and created everything, he can do whatever the heck he wants and guess what? None of us have any right to judge his actions. If he really did create everything then he created right and wrong and therefore defines right. So either you believe in God, in which case: saying he did something wrong makes you vain and arrogant, or you don't believe in God, in which case: what is it to you?

I would also like to address the whole debate on how right or wrong the actions of the christian God are.

This is a very common topic of discussion where people who allegedly don't believe in God pick at his actions and the Christians try to justify them. Pardon me for saying this but: you do realize that that is completely irrelevant to whether God actually exists or not, don't you?

Honestly, hate to burst your bubbles, but just because you don't like the way someone does things, does not make them not exist. I really hate Hitler but I don't think he isn't real because I don't like what he did. That is a terrible argument and if you don't believe in God I would honestly expect you to come up with something better. To me it looks more like you do believe in God and are just mad at him.

If you don't believe in God, you have no right to judge his actions.

Sorry if that little rant offended you.

I'm not religious myself but, the way I see it: if God really does exist and created everything, he can do whatever the heck he wants and guess what? None of us have any right to judge his actions. If he really did create everything then he created right and wrong and therefore defines right. So either you believe in God, in which case: saying he did something wrong makes you vain and arrogant, or you don't believe in God, in which case: what is it to you?

i understand and agree with this to a degree, i do not believe in god, and people who do believe in god are not my issue. my issue is with the faith itself, and having faith in a deity/set of laws which are so very controversial and the only "proof" of which comes from humans

I would also like to address the whole debate on how right or wrong the actions of the christian God are.

This is a very common topic of discussion where people who allegedly don't believe in God pick at his actions and the Christians try to justify them. Pardon me for saying this but: you do realize that that is completely irrelevant to whether God actually exists or not, don't you?

Honestly, hate to burst your bubbles, but just because you don't like the way someone does things, does not make them not exist. I really hate Hitler but I don't think he isn't real because I don't like what he did. That is a terrible argument and if you don't believe in God I would honestly expect you to come up with something better. To me it looks more like you do believe in God and are just mad at him.

If you don't believe in God, you have no right to judge his actions.

Sorry if that little rant offended you.

I'm not religious myself but, the way I see it: if God really does exist and created everything, he can do whatever the heck he wants and guess what? None of us have any right to judge his actions. If he really did create everything then he created right and wrong and therefore defines right. So either you believe in God, in which case: saying he did something wrong makes you vain and arrogant, or you don't believe in God, in which case: what is it to you?

i understand and agree with this to a degree, i do not believe in god, and people who do believe in god are not my issue. my issue is with the faith itself, and having faith in a deity/set of laws which are so very controversial and the only "proof" of which comes from humans

Most faiths are controversial, evolution is controversial. Pretty much everything you have learned in your life comes from humans, you are a human. Why so against Christianity?

This topic has had its ups and downs but recently its degraded into what most online discussions on religion do: a bunch of butt hurt atheists hating on Christianity. I just don't see how this topic is staying positive.

I would also like to address the whole debate on how right or wrong the actions of the christian God are.

This is a very common topic of discussion where people who allegedly don't believe in God pick at his actions and the Christians try to justify them. Pardon me for saying this but: you do realize that that is completely irrelevant to whether God actually exists or not, don't you?

Honestly, hate to burst your bubbles, but just because you don't like the way someone does things, does not make them not exist. I really hate Hitler but I don't think he isn't real because I don't like what he did. That is a terrible argument and if you don't believe in God I would honestly expect you to come up with something better. To me it looks more like you do believe in God and are just mad at him.

If you don't believe in God, you have no right to judge his actions.

Sorry if that little rant offended you.

I'm not religious myself but, the way I see it: if God really does exist and created everything, he can do whatever the heck he wants and guess what? None of us have any right to judge his actions. If he really did create everything then he created right and wrong and therefore defines right. So either you believe in God, in which case: saying he did something wrong makes you vain and arrogant, or you don't believe in God, in which case: what is it to you?

i understand and agree with this to a degree, i do not believe in god, and people who do believe in god are not my issue. my issue is with the faith itself, and having faith in a deity/set of laws which are so very controversial and the only "proof" of which comes from humans

Most faiths are controversial, evolution is controversial. Pretty much everything you have learned in your life comes from humans, you are a human. Why so against Christianity?

This topic has had its ups and downs but recently its degraded into what most online discussions on religion do: a bunch of butt hurt atheists hating on Christianity. I just don't see how this topic is staying positive.

mis worded, i meant word of mouth, no actual proof to back the existence of a god or truth in all religious texts

Well unfortunately at just about every single turn the evidence shows that the bible is wrong.

Earth young - few thousand years? Wrong - off by a factor of one million.

Humans from Adam and Eve - woman created from a rib? No just no. Overwhelming fossil and DNA evidence to the contrary.

Mass exodus from Egypt? Not even close. There would have been tons of local records of this as well as archeological evidence (trash, encampments, etc) - none of which exists.

In fact 99% of the historical 'facts' in the bible are demonstratably false.

Evidence and logical, valid and clear arguments for your above claims please.

Wow do you seriously believe all three? I'm not sure you are looking for evidence and logical, valid and clear arguments. Because if you use google at all it's all there.

If you really are serious I can provide them. But if you are so far gone facts don't matter its a waste of both our times.