Celtic Heroes

First off, I don't know about you guys, but I would just love to have wings. I can think of no way at all that they would be useless (unless you're afraid of heights). They would have been SO helpful to the first humans. Even if they couldn't fly with them they could glide which would be EXTREMELY helpful (jumping along trees etc). Also, science has shown that mutations are bad in general. Also, it can't be natural selection that makes all these traits. I'll admit it could do some small things over a really long time (think giraffe's long neck over 1000000000000 years) but it couldn't give something wings, for example.

About the "God-can't-exist-because-of-war" argument. God doesn't start the wars. He allows people to has free will. It is people with free will that do these terrible things. And God does interfere. You may have noticed that Hitler was defeated. Not without huge cost in lives, but those lives were repricussions of HIS actions. Maybe not always in huge ways, but he helps in everyday life.

I agree, this goes with my Love and Hope post.

As for evolution? I doubt that the millions of species on Earth all came by chance, and yet go perfectly with the opposite gender.

i agree with both of you!

reddogy, you showed another argumant against evolution that i did not think of in my last post. certainly the breeding organs now would be different then the original animals that we were supposed to have evolved from. how did it evolve and have it work for each gender?

First off, I don't know about you guys, but I would just love to have wings. I can think of no way at all that they would be useless (unless you're afraid of heights). They would have been SO helpful to the first humans. Even if they couldn't fly with them they could glide which would be EXTREMELY helpful (jumping along trees etc). Also, science has shown that mutations are bad in general. Also, it can't be natural selection that makes all these traits. I'll admit it could do some small things over a really long time (think giraffe's long neck over 1000000000000 years) but it couldn't give something wings, for example.

About the "God-can't-exist-because-of-war" argument. God doesn't start the wars. He allows people to has free will. It is people with free will that do these terrible things. And God does interfere. You may have noticed that Hitler was defeated. Not without huge cost in lives, but those lives were repricussions of HIS actions. Maybe not always in huge ways, but he helps in everyday life.

I agree, this goes with my Love and Hope post.

As for evolution? I doubt that the millions of species on Earth all came by chance, and yet go perfectly with the opposite gender.

i agree with both of you!

reddogy, you showed another argumant against evolution that i did not think of in my last post. certainly the breeding organs now would be different then the original animals that we were supposed to have evolved from. how did it evolve and have it work for each gender?

*** retarded christians.... You honestly think we choose our evolutions with our mind? You are a moron. so you would choose a big neck or wings over intelligence? Great, you are now a pathetic fossil because you have gone extinct as a flightless bird with an exposed neck. Congratz

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As for your thing about the Higgs boson thingy(which I admit I have never even heard of) this is not applicable in this case. If you know anything about Christianity you should know that God created everything. Also He is a spirit being. He is also not bound by the laws of thisAnd universe. This would make sense if you think about it. If He truly exists, is all-powerful, and has always existed, then what makes you think that He needs to abide by the rules of the universe which He created? As I have already posted I will be posting a very large post in the near future which will be in favor of creationism. This might not be in it though. But no one has answered my question yet. If God does not exist then how did atoms/molecules get here in the first place? It's something to think about. In my opinion, it takes a lot more faith to believe in evolution(which real science does not agree with) than creationism(which real science does agree with).[/quote]
Sorry mate, you just won the retarded medal, first up. You don't even understand the simple reason you exist, second. Scientists believe the side that has the most evidence. so evolution considering the bible can't be considered evidence. And lastly, if god made everything, what made god? Huh? How did he come to be?

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Also, you say god leaves humans free will, well imagine this, a women and a boy, the boy gets killed in an alley and the women gets raped, even if god were to intervien, 2 peoples free will is gone anyway, you think the women wants to get raped? You think the boy wanted to die?

As for your thing about the Higgs boson thingy(which I admit I have never even heard of) this is not applicable in this case. If you know anything about Christianity you should know that God created everything. Also He is a spirit being. He is also not bound by the laws of thisAnd universe. This would make sense if you think about it. If He truly exists, is all-powerful, and has always existed, then what makes you think that He needs to abide by the rules of the universe which He created? As I have already posted I will be posting a very large post in the near future which will be in favor of creationism. This might not be in it though. But no one has answered my question yet. If God does not exist then how did atoms/molecules get here in the first place? It's something to think about. In my opinion, it takes a lot more faith to believe in evolution(which real science does not agree with) than creationism(which real science does agree with).

Sorry mate, you just won the retarded medal, first up. You don't even understand the simple reason you exist, second. Scientists believe the side that has the most evidence. so evolution considering the bible can't be considered evidence. And lastly, if god made everything, what made god? Huh? How did he come to be?

The thing is, if you assume that there exists an entity that transcends time and space (reality), the Higgs Boson theory may not apply to it. What made god, or rather how did god begin, is an interesting question but by the same token, we have barely grasped the true nature of the universe and still have yet to properly figure out how did the universe begin if not by divine means.

One of the real arguments that I make to myself is that science (for lack of a better description for the opposite of religion) is more objective whilst religion is more subjective. I have not seen a lot of evidence that shows religion does not rely heavily on favour or opinions that defines "fact."

As for your thing about the Higgs boson thingy(which I admit I have never even heard of) this is not applicable in this case. If you know anything about Christianity you should know that God created everything. Also He is a spirit being. He is also not bound by the laws of thisAnd universe. This would make sense if you think about it. If He truly exists, is all-powerful, and has always existed, then what makes you think that He needs to abide by the rules of the universe which He created? As I have already posted I will be posting a very large post in the near future which will be in favor of creationism. This might not be in it though. But no one has answered my question yet. If God does not exist then how did atoms/molecules get here in the first place? It's something to think about. In my opinion, it takes a lot more faith to believe in evolution(which real science does not agree with) than creationism(which real science does agree with).[/quote]
Sorry mate, you just won the retarded medal, first up. You don't even understand the simple reason you exist, second. Scientists believe the side that has the most evidence. so evolution considering the bible can't be considered evidence. And lastly, if god made everything, what made god? Huh? How did he come to be?[/quote]


Oh I wasn't talking about the bible when i said real scientific evidence. I was talking about how every geologic clock points to creation. Oh and if u say "oh u moron what about carbon 14" carbon 14 is not accurate. It once dated a living mollusk at 2300 years old, a mortar known to be less than eight hundred years old as 7370 years old, and fresh seal skins at 1300. Oh I can tell that it is perfectly accurate. Many things could alter the decay of carbon 14 such as atmospheric pollution, solar activity, cosmic radiation, and meteors or large cosmic bodies falling to earth. Im also talking about evidence like the fossil record which goes against evolution. Do u realize that no transitionary form has ever been found? (I mean something that instead of having either scales or feathers had something between the two or something like that). Another thing i noticed is that evolution teaches that as things got older they evolved into something better. Well, I've noticed something. Usually over time things get worse not better. If you take a shiny new office building and just leave it to sit, it will eventually fall down. This is called the law of entropy(aka the 2nd law of thermodynamics which if u dnt know is one of the laws of science that is least disputed. So if this law of science, emphasis on science says that evolution is not possible because things, left to themselves, in natural conditions, get worse then how can evolution be true?). Also the most important laws of science, the laws of thermodynamics, are actually predicted in scripture. If u want me to tell u chapter and verse i can. If u dnt know what the laws if thermodynamics is, then u can ask me that too. U ask me where God came from. He has always existed. To be honest that is all i can tell u. But before u get all giddy with victory. U still have not answered my question; where did the atom come from? If the laws of thermodynamics are true and have always been true( which isn't that what evolution teaches?; the law of uniformity and all that) then if the atom has always existed then why hasn't the universe burned out? I can give u much more evidence. All i know is what I have found in my studies. Math proves evolution wrong. It is mathematically impossible. I will be posting the actual figures in the paper that i am writing at this time for the purpose that whenever i see a post like this i can respond. Because i like to have all my thoughts in one place. I am a better debater if i take my time so that is what I am doing. I do not think evolutionists themselves are retarded, i just think that they are a little blinded. I am a proud christian. I personally see the evidence for creation. A book that i would have you read if you are a creationist who doesn't know what the facts r and just knws the truth is "unlocking the mysteries of creation. I would encourage evolutionists to read it too and see if they can refute what it says.

@Solumbum
Would you mind debating with better grammar and more paragraphs? :/

Anyone can find flaws in a theory, hence why it is called a theory. Also, you can't have your cake and eat it too. If god is the exception to the various rules of physics, perhaps there are other exceptions as well that would support the theory of evolution and refine laws of physics.

Your question is one big unknown that can not be verified by science or religion. There is nothing that I can measure, observe, or record in the here and now that would lead me to prove God's existence. Likewise, the best scientific idea for the creation and current existence of the universe, other than divine intervention, is the Big Bang Theory. We can measure, observe, and record the behaviour of atoms in various conditions in the here and now but it is guesswork. Intelligent guesswork but the result of assumptions nevertheless.

Evolution is not really about transitionary forms. If you follow Darwin's theory, changes happen by accident. A tiny DNA sequence that is altered can yield a large change on the body as a whole. To see a transition on a level where a clear path is shown, you would have to "zoom out" millions of years.

I would like to see more proof, as solid as your disproof for evolution, in favour of creation and can you explain what math proves evolution incorrect? I do not believe I have ever seen real mathematical proof for or against evolution so I am actually very curious. 0.0

@Magixal
I was not stating that we can control evolution with our minds. Also it would not necessarily be one or the other with intelligence or wings. According to evolution two things could change at once and the neck would be fixed probly when the species got wings.
About free will. God is NOT taking their free will. The other person is. God doesn't want them to die. God isn't making them die. It is the other person. You or I could choose to go on a killing spree with our free will. We would kill people and it would not be their will to die. But because we abused the gift of free will we harmed other people. It's the truth of free will. God is sad when someone murders or rapes another person.
Also, it's not like Christians like it when people die. We don't want people to be killed. I don't know about you, but I am upset and angry whenever I hear about serial rapists and killers. But it is the truth- we have free will that God gives us. Honestly I don't know why I am arguing about this because no one can deny that we have free will.
Think of it this way. Let's say you have two children. Does it make you feel all good when the one says "I live you" because you make her? No because she doesn't really mean it. But when you come home and the child rushes to the door with a huge smile and wraps her arms around you and says "I love you daddy!" That is when you feel good.
It's the same way with God. He created us to glorify Him. He wants us to love him though, not just be robots constantly praising him because we have to.
I hope you will think about this.

For the record- not all science is false. Pretty much all of it I think is correct. Science and Christianity are not opposite. In many ways they support each other. The one few part of science I believe is wrong is evolution.