Celtic Heroes

Okay here-
http://creationscience4kids.com/2012/06 ... nderwater/

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/12/ ... cal-flood/

http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/06/does-scie ... ahs-flood/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature ... -flood.htm

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-ans ... d-evidence

You don't have to read all of it lol.
I realize some is Christian sources. If you would like to run your own search just google "proof of the flood" or "was the flood real". I hope this can answer some questions.

Did you read your links? Just wondering because if you read the Fox News link it refers to this:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Se ... hypothesis
There isn't enough evidence to determine exactly how it happened (If it did) but this is a 60,000 square mile area. It seems plausible because the area was below sea level and a narrow area of land stopping flooding by the sea may have given way. The surface area of the earth is huge. The area flooded is only 0.1% (0.001) of the earths land mass or 0.025% of the total area. This is a huge amount for a Stone Age goat farmer. And anyone living in that time likely never went more than 50 miles from thier place of birth so it may have seemed like the whole world.

In fact there is nowhere near enough water to flood the actual world. Despite crappy Kevin Costner movies.

How would Noah have gotten penguins and polar bears and everything in between? Iook up how many different animals there are and see if they would even fit. He would have to travel like Santa Claus to be able to pick up all species and drop them off again. But to a goat farmer living 2000 years ago it would seem like only a dozen or so since the whole world was just 2500 square miles to them. Anyone can 'see' the world is a flat circle if they stand up high and look around.

There are probably myths based on some truth in all cultures because floods are so devastating that they can easily wipe out whole towns just like today. There are so many places that floods can happen that it isn't surprising.

Also do you really believe everyone deserved to be murdered/killed by a vengeful god? Wouldn't there be newborn children whose only crime was to be born? In olden times and still in some areas of the Middle East and North Korea it is considered fair to punish entire families for the 'crimes' of one individual. Does that really seem moral to you?

@Ddude13
Er, I actually meant scripture where the bible predicted currents and the earth being round. I do firmly support that almost all evidence for Noah's arc is circumstantial and can be explained by geological processes. That is just my judgement though. You can follow the link I posted earlier so you can investigate for yourself rather than have me explain everything. Look for words and phrases relating to uplift, plate tectonics, marine fossilisation, etc.

I will check out those links and get back to you soon.

@RedDogy
It was a pleasure speaking with you as well. I do not think the goal of this topic was to ever convert anyone (though it seemed like some people tried) but I would say it has opened up our minds, some more than others, and people have presented many logical points which will keep me thinking for a while.

Okay here-
http://creationscience4kids.com/2012/06 ... nderwater/

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/12/ ... cal-flood/

http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/06/does-scie ... ahs-flood/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature ... -flood.htm

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-ans ... d-evidence

You don't have to read all of it lol.
I realize some is Christian sources. If you would like to run your own search just google "proof of the flood" or "was the flood real". I hope this can answer some questions.

Did you read your links? Just wondering because if you read the Fox News link it refers to this:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Se ... hypothesis
There isn't enough evidence to determine exactly how it happened (If it did) but this is a 60,000 square mile area. It seems plausible because the area was below sea level and a narrow area of land stopping flooding by the sea may have given way. The surface area of the earth is huge. The area flooded is only 0.1% (0.001) of the earths land mass or 0.025% of the total area. This is a huge amount for a Stone Age goat farmer. And anyone living in that time likely never went more than 50 miles from thier place of birth so it may have seemed like the whole world.

In fact there is nowhere near enough water to flood the actual world. Despite crappy Kevin Costner movies.

How would Noah have gotten penguins and polar bears and everything in between? Iook up how many different animals there are and see if they would even fit. He would have to travel like Santa Claus to be able to pick up all species and drop them off again. But to a goat farmer living 2000 years ago it would seem like only a dozen or so since the whole world was just 2500 square miles to them. Anyone can 'see' the world is a flat circle if they stand up high and look around.

There are probably myths based on some truth in all cultures because floods are so devastating that they can easily wipe out whole towns just like today. There are so many places that floods can happen that it isn't surprising.

Also do you really believe everyone deserved to be murdered/killed by a vengeful god? Wouldn't there be newborn children whose only crime was to be born? In olden times and still in some areas of the Middle East and North Korea it is considered fair to punish entire families for the 'crimes' of one individual. Does that really seem moral to you?

The man who found the Titanic thinks the flood was real. I read my links. Some of them were just some hypothesis. I assumed you were open to them.

Yes, I do admit that it is from that book. It is also very true. I am truly a new poster. I did not mean to imply that I came up with the figures. I apologize to any I fooled and I apologize to Henry Morris. I doubt he would mind that I used his figures however. All I said was that I would be posting the figures not that I came up with them. No I am not Robert. The eighth commandment is thou shalt not steal. Again, I apologize. I should have made it clear where I got it. And trust me, you will see me again on this topic

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, accept that it was a slip-up, and forgive you. But I am sure it won't be forgotten. You should be careful going forward, as your words are most likely going to be questioned from now on.

Still, if you are at the age and ability to actually be writing complex papers, you should have known better. It was a pretty sloppy slip-up, if you ask me.

Your best bet is to make it clear. State where you are getting your information. To make it even more obvious, use the quotation tool available.

For example...

Massimo Pigliucci said the following, which I think fits well into this thread:

If you reject the theory of evolution, or think that there is such a thing as alternative (as opposed to evidence-based) medicine, or claim without evidence that aliens are visiting the planet, or think that the stars influence human destiny, and so on, you are anti-science and live in a dream world with no connection to reality.

More damning, you are engaging in the ultimate act of arrogance: to declare something true or untrue not because you have reason or evidence, but only because it makes you feel better. May I suggest that you need a good dose of humility, and that one way to get it is to admit that the universe is not about you, and that some people out there really know more than you do, as unpleasant a thought as this may be?

THEN DO WHAT WE SAY AND GOOGLE SEARCH CHARLES DARWIN!!! USE YOUR BRAIN!! EVOLUTION GAVE YOU A FINE ONE!! YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO LEARN IF YOU DONT TRY TO LEARN!!!!!!!!!! THIS ISNT THE MATRIX. YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD INFORMATION INTO YOUR BRAIN! YOU GOTTA READ! Edited because I just read admins post

THEN DO WHAT WE SAY AND GOOGLE SEARCH CHARLES DARWIN!!! USE YOUR BRAIN!! EVOLUTION GAVE YOU A FINE ONE!! YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO LEARN IF YOU DONT TRY TO LEARN!!!!!!!!!! THIS ISNT THE MATRIX. YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD INFORMATION INTO YOUR BRAIN! YOU GOTTA READ! Edited because I just read admins post

listen, i did, and if you READ my posts concerning it i showed that it wasnt evidence and i even showed more evidence, that evolution isnt true. Mainly Plus3, but also you are just saying that evolution is a fact while just mocking and showing no evidence. that is why i am asking and the topic has moved on while no one has showed any more evidence, so as far as i am concerned you just forfeited.

there are people that have a hypothesis on how the flood happened, and that is that all along the fault line in the Atlantic ocean fountains burst up, like it says in the Bible, and it flooded the earth and as the continents were drifting apart, they simply lifted themselves out of the water. I dont know if there are problems with this, anyone feel free to tell me if you think that there are.

i would not just fight the common view of Christianity, as i think that lots of it is BS, look at other views of it to.

as for the "baby murder", it is simply not. PM if you want to know as i will not answer a million questions at once.

There is evidence of evolution. There is no evidence of a benevolent deity.

There is evidence of evolution. There is no evidence of a benevolent deity.

show me the evidence for evolution and read my far back posts before you do.

There is evidence of evolution. There is no evidence of a benevolent deity.

show me the evidence for evolution and read my far back posts before you do.

http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/fi ... -evolution

It's amazing what these search engines can do...