Celtic Heroes

Can you show me actual evidence that I can debate instead of insulting my intelligence?

Science* and God are not mutually exclusive. You can believe in both. Many great scientists have believed in God. Among them would be Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, and Louis Pasteur. There is evidence that the Flood occurred(e.g. sea shells on top of mountains; yes maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it). In every matter of science and history that can be proven, and the Bible talks about, the Bible has been proven right. The laws of Thermodynamics prove creationism right(again maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it{Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1:2-3, 2 Peter 3:5,7, Psalm 148:5-6, Isaiah 40:26, Nehemiah 9:6, Psalm 102:26, and Romans 8:22} thousands of years before it was discovered.) You ask me how they gained my undying loyalty; it is because they are right in every way. You say that lack of proof for evolution does not prove creationism. This is kind of true. But if evolution is not true then what is the only other option that makes sense?

*=Science not evolution.

Where did you even get the "proper way to beat my slaves" thing? Just curious. Cause until I know that I can't debate you on that point. What you obviously do not understand is that it was not just one person who did wrong in each family. Evil was the only thing in the mind of every single family member(don't know about babies). I am not "on board" with baby murder now. I don't know what the situation was back then. All I know is what the Bible says and what real science says. Are you debating the Bible or are you debating creationism and evolution? You see they are different. Creationism just says that there was an intelligent design. You can be a creationist without believing the Bible.

http://www.openbible.info/topics/slavery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

From answering-Christianity.com
Now let us look at Exodus 21:20-21 "If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property."   Notice how the Bible doesn't recognize the slave male or female as a normal human being.  If the master beats his servant to death, then the master will not get the death punishment or penalty.  He will only be punished, but not to death.  This punishment mighty be even a light one such as a single light whip since the punishment was not determined.

Which may not be correct from other sources I have "if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished" which many have Interpreted as if dying past the first day is ok.

I am trying to push facts. Also i am showing that the bible is full of horrible stone age brutality.

There is lots of slave beating advice and morality in the bible. If I beat my slave and he dies in a few days well OK! But if he should die right away = bad. I never knew that.

Where did you even get the "proper way to beat my slaves" thing? Just curious. Cause until I know that I can't debate you on that point. What you obviously do not understand is that it was not just one person who did wrong in each family. Evil was the only thing in the mind of every single family member(don't know about babies). I am not "on board" with baby murder now. I don't know what the situation was back then. All I know is what the Bible says and what real science says. Are you debating the Bible or are you debating creationism and evolution? You see they are different. Creationism just says that there was an intelligent design. You can be a creationist without believing the Bible.

http://www.openbible.info/topics/slavery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

From answering-Christianity.com
Now let us look at Exodus 21:20-21 "If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property."   Notice how the Bible doesn't recognize the slave male or female as a normal human being.  If the master beats his servant to death, then the master will not get the death punishment or penalty.  He will only be punished, but not to death.  This punishment mighty be even a light one such as a single light whip since the punishment was not determined.

Which may not be correct from other sources I have "if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished" which many have Interpreted as if dying past the first day is ok.

I am trying to push facts. Also i am showing that the bible is full of horrible stone age brutality.

There is lots of slave beating advice and morality in the bible. If I beat my slave and he dies in a few days well OK! But if he should die right away = bad. I never knew that.

Ok now that I understand what you meant I can give you an answer. I encourage you to look at Ephesians 6:5-8. You see you are to obey authority unless the authority is telling you to do something contrary to God's word. Also I think it depends which version of the Bible you are looking at. In my version it says that the slave will be avenged if he died, which usually means that the killer will be killed.

I'm not going to listen to a "dude get over it your wrong". I want evidence. You did not even address what I said when you quoted me. The Exodus most certainly was true. That is in Jewish history. Also, if you are going by the fact that there is no record of it by the Egyptians, you will find that they usually left out things that made them look bad. No offense to them. A lot of nations do it even today.

to plus3,

YOU DENY THE EVIDENCE!!! YOU TELL ME HOW WHAT I SAID AT AROUND PAGE 52 IS NOT EVIDENCE!!! YOU SHOW ME MORE EVIDENCE!!! I HAVE NO FEAR OF WHAT IS REAL YOU MORON!!! YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE FEAR!!! EVOLUTION IS A DELUSION!!! HELP ME!?!?! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEEDS HELP!!! DONT JUST SAY THAT I HAVE A FEAR, SHOW ME THAT I HAVE A FEAR OF WHAT IS REAL!!! YOU DENY AND MOCK, THEN YOU SAY THAT IT IS A FACT WHILE SHOWING NO REAL EVIDENCE!!! JUST BECAUSE SPECIES HAVE SIMILAR DNA DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE!!! LOOK AT MY POSTS CONCERNING THIS NON EVIDENCE!!! THEN YOU MAKE THESE ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG FOR A BEING TO DO WHILE LOOKING AT THE COMMON VIEW!!! YOU ARE THE MOST IGNORANT LOCKED ON MOCKING MORON THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!

to OTM, i said this to try to get it through his head that he is not discussing what i am saying and just mocking. i am sorry if it is inappropriate so you can delete this if you want to.

The problem with C-14 dating is that changes in its environment can change the rate of C-14 decay. For instance, ingenious rocks can appear to be millions of years old even if they just formed because of the heat of the volcano. So C-14 dating is not very accurate especially for long term dating.

Changes in environment do not affect the rate of decay. If u had evidence of this - real evidence - I suggest you submit to a peer reviewed journal like Nature. Because you are about to be famous.

The problem with C-14 dating is that changes in its environment can change the rate of C-14 decay. For instance, ingenious rocks can appear to be millions of years old even if they just formed because of the heat of the volcano. So C-14 dating is not very accurate especially for long term dating.

I don't see the relevance. Any biological matter would be destroyed by volcanic activity anyway. Do you know what anomalous results are?

This was told shown to me by someone much smarter than me or you and has studied creation and evolution. If changes in the environment does not affect C-14 and it is accurate then why has it dated a live mollusk at being a couple thousand years old?

True story=My uncle once asked a professor who taught evolution if he really believed that stuff. The professor told him that evolution was not possible. The only reason the professor believed evolution is that he could not bear to believe the alternative.

You know what this reminds me of? Once when Louis Pasteur was telling everyone that germs floated in the air, a very smart man told him that he did not believe it because he could not bear the thought of germs floating in the air.

I challenge you to decide for yourself whether evolution is true or creation is true. Forget what your teachers have told you. Go to a site that shows that neutrally, without assuming that either is true, shows the facts and try to see which one fits the facts better. Then come and tell me your findings.