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Re: A discussion about religion

#691
Science* and God are not mutually exclusive. You can believe in both. Many great scientists have believed in God. Among them would be Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, and Louis Pasteur. There is evidence that the Flood occurred(e.g. sea shells on top of mountains; yes maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it). In every matter of science and history that can be proven, and the Bible talks about, the Bible has been proven right. The laws of Thermodynamics prove creationism right(again maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it{Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1:2-3, 2 Peter 3:5,7, Psalm 148:5-6, Isaiah 40:26, Nehemiah 9:6, Psalm 102:26, and Romans 8:22} thousands of years before it was discovered.) You ask me how they gained my undying loyalty; it is because they are right in every way. You say that lack of proof for evolution does not prove creationism. This is kind of true. But if evolution is not true then what is the only other option that makes sense?

*=Science not evolution.
I am prepared to admit jesus did exist. However the idea of intelligent design is absurd. Yes, jesus was smart for his time. So was Mendeleev, so was Newton, so was Einstein, so was da Vinci.

Re: A discussion about religion

#692
I asked you to show me some proof of evolution. Not the other way around. You haven't shown me much proof yourself. Look, people thought Columbus was crazy in thinking that the world was round. My point is that just because many people believe it does not mean it is right. And to explain the other thing, I was just pointing out that it was someone who did know what they are talking about. In other words that it was not me. As for my age, that is classified. You don't need my age to disprove the points that I have made.
Psalm 46:10 He says, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."

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Re: A discussion about religion

#693
to plus3,

YOU DENY THE EVIDENCE!!! YOU TELL ME HOW WHAT I SAID AT AROUND PAGE 52 IS NOT EVIDENCE!!! YOU SHOW ME MORE EVIDENCE!!! I HAVE NO FEAR OF WHAT IS REAL YOU MORON!!! YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE FEAR!!! EVOLUTION IS A DELUSION!!! HELP ME!?!?! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEEDS HELP!!! DONT JUST SAY THAT I HAVE A FEAR, SHOW ME THAT I HAVE A FEAR OF WHAT IS REAL!!! YOU DENY AND MOCK, THEN YOU SAY THAT IT IS A FACT WHILE SHOWING NO REAL EVIDENCE!!! JUST BECAUSE SPECIES HAVE SIMILAR DNA DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE!!! LOOK AT MY POSTS CONCERNING THIS NON EVIDENCE!!! THEN YOU MAKE THESE ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG FOR A BEING TO DO WHILE LOOKING AT THE COMMON VIEW!!! YOU ARE THE MOST IGNORANT LOCKED ON MOCKING MORON THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!

to OTM, i said this to try to get it through his head that he is not discussing what i am saying and just mocking. i am sorry if it is inappropriate so you can delete this if you want to.
Bro stop using caps. Yeah. You are talking loud. That means you are still talking. Pull your finger out and actually attempt to look. Evolution has some fact behind it. The bible simply doesn't. And btw do you feel that people whom lose their virginity before marriage should be stoned to death?

Re: A discussion about religion

#694
Science* and God are not mutually exclusive. You can believe in both. Many great scientists have believed in God. Among them would be Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, and Louis Pasteur. There is evidence that the Flood occurred(e.g. sea shells on top of mountains; yes maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it). In every matter of science and history that can be proven, and the Bible talks about, the Bible has been proven right. The laws of Thermodynamics prove creationism right(again maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it{Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1:2-3, 2 Peter 3:5,7, Psalm 148:5-6, Isaiah 40:26, Nehemiah 9:6, Psalm 102:26, and Romans 8:22} thousands of years before it was discovered.) You ask me how they gained my undying loyalty; it is because they are right in every way. You say that lack of proof for evolution does not prove creationism. This is kind of true. But if evolution is not true then what is the only other option that makes sense?

*=Science not evolution.
I am prepared to admit jesus did exist. However the idea of intelligent design is absurd. Yes, jesus was smart for his time. So was Mendeleev, so was Newton, so was Einstein, so was da Vinci.
Why is it more absurd than evolution? I don't want to hear "it's absurd". I want to hear why it is absurd.
Psalm 46:10 He says, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."

Solumbum-200
WeldenS-36
BlodgarmS-35
EragonS-27

Junior Journalist of the Dal Riata Daily Enquirer

Proud Clansman of Divergent

Re: A discussion about religion

#695
Science* and God are not mutually exclusive. You can believe in both. Many great scientists have believed in God. Among them would be Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, and Louis Pasteur. There is evidence that the Flood occurred(e.g. sea shells on top of mountains; yes maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it). In every matter of science and history that can be proven, and the Bible talks about, the Bible has been proven right. The laws of Thermodynamics prove creationism right(again maybe evolution can explain it, but the Bible predicts it{Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1:2-3, 2 Peter 3:5,7, Psalm 148:5-6, Isaiah 40:26, Nehemiah 9:6, Psalm 102:26, and Romans 8:22} thousands of years before it was discovered.) You ask me how they gained my undying loyalty; it is because they are right in every way. You say that lack of proof for evolution does not prove creationism. This is kind of true. But if evolution is not true then what is the only other option that makes sense?

*=Science not evolution.
I am prepared to admit jesus did exist. However the idea of intelligent design is absurd. Yes, jesus was smart for his time. So was Mendeleev, so was Newton, so was Einstein, so was da Vinci.
Why is it more absurd than evolution? I don't want to hear "it's absurd". I want to hear why it is absurd.
Because there is no facts to back it up

Re: A discussion about religion

#696
Also, any other religion could be correct. Just because there is a small chance evolution is wrong. Just as there is a small chance gravity is wrong. Doesn't mean any certain religion is correct

Re: A discussion about religion

#697
to plus3,

YOU DENY THE EVIDENCE!!! YOU TELL ME HOW WHAT I SAID AT AROUND PAGE 52 IS NOT EVIDENCE!!! YOU SHOW ME MORE EVIDENCE!!! I HAVE NO FEAR OF WHAT IS REAL YOU MORON!!! YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE FEAR!!! EVOLUTION IS A DELUSION!!! HELP ME!?!?! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEEDS HELP!!! DONT JUST SAY THAT I HAVE A FEAR, SHOW ME THAT I HAVE A FEAR OF WHAT IS REAL!!! YOU DENY AND MOCK, THEN YOU SAY THAT IT IS A FACT WHILE SHOWING NO REAL EVIDENCE!!! JUST BECAUSE SPECIES HAVE SIMILAR DNA DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE!!! LOOK AT MY POSTS CONCERNING THIS NON EVIDENCE!!! THEN YOU MAKE THESE ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG FOR A BEING TO DO WHILE LOOKING AT THE COMMON VIEW!!! YOU ARE THE MOST IGNORANT LOCKED ON MOCKING MORON THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!

to OTM, i said this to try to get it through his head that he is not discussing what i am saying and just mocking. i am sorry if it is inappropriate so you can delete this if you want to.
Bro stop using caps. Yeah. You are talking loud. That means you are still talking. Pull your finger out and actually attempt to look. Evolution has some fact behind it. The bible simply doesn't. And btw do you feel that people whom lose their virginity before marriage should be stoned to death?
Because if you believe in Christianity then you do.

Re: A discussion about religion

#699
You absolutely have no idea what you are talking about. First of all, it was in the old testament that they were stoned to death. We say that it is wrong, and that it should not be condoned. We also do not think that you should ignore it. Also Moses married an Ethiopian women. I wonder what color she could be. Second of all, no where in the Bible does it say that we should hate gay people or black people. It says that homosexuality is wrong, but that we should treat them with love, but we don't condone sin. Not condoning sin is not the same as hating those who do it. It doesn't even say anything about black people. Also if Christians are supposed to hate black people then why are there black Christians. What you posted is nonsense Magixal.

Oh yeah forgot to mention: I think this is my last post for today. See you tomorrow.
Psalm 46:10 He says, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."

Solumbum-200
WeldenS-36
BlodgarmS-35
EragonS-27

Junior Journalist of the Dal Riata Daily Enquirer

Proud Clansman of Divergent

Re: A discussion about religion

#700
@ Plus3-
It is not baby murder. Baby murder is what those people were doing. They would literally chop open the stomachs of pregnant women in the cities they attacked. Also, as I said, God gave everyone there second chances, third chances, fourth chances, fifth chances, etc. It was the people's choices that killed them. Also, to that quote, the evidence we have given you you have turned down as "not being evidence" because for some reason it is too hard for you to comprehend, too scary, or you don't want to believe it. I am inclined to believe the third. If you don't want to believe me that's fine. If you are going to argue with me like "You haven't given evidence" or "Your wrong", then so be it. You don't need to believe in God. I am just trying to get my viewpoint across.
@Maxigal-
About the "Jesus existed but was only smart, not God." Jesus himself said he was the Son of God. He also said not to lie. So was Jesus a hypocrital genius who made up all these lies? Then how would he become a religion? I could spend my whole life saying I'm God and spouting parables and no one would believe me. So the option of mere genious is out of the picture. Plato and all them made parables and spoke. But they're not religions. So a genius philosopher can't work.
Option #2- Jesus was insane. Obviously not. He would not have gathered his followers through insanity.
Option #3- Jesus was the son of God. He was extraordinarily wise. He taught people how to live right. He was and is hailed as the Son of God. He has a huge religion after him.
I don't know about you, but option three sounds like the only logical one to me.
Also, we don't hate gays or blacks. We think being gay is wrong, but that doesn't mean we hate you. We also believe lying is wrong and rebelling against your parents is wrong, and being gay is just the same as those-a sin. By saying we hate gays you're saying we hate all humanity, including ourselves. By hating blacks, I'm assuming that you mean because of slavery in the bible. We've been over this. Slavery wasnt just blacks in the bible it was whites, Hispanics, Arab, male, female, EVERYBODY. Those two claims are both illegitimate.

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