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Re: A discussion about religion

#751
Where in the Bible does it say God hates blacks? It looks like you are just trying to be as offensive as possible. You are making the same stupid stabs that people have been correcting over and over, are you a troll?

Also, why do the Christian's god's actions matter to you? You don't believe in him so you should not be bringing it up, it is irrelevant to whether or not he exists. You are making a logical fallacy by changing the subject from the discussion to hating on the christian god, and your facts aren't even straight.
Funny that gay Killing, hatered for others and inflicting eternal torture, being a dictator - and the only objection is hating blacks.

The gods actions matter to me as a non-believer because so many people in my country mindlessly follow those examples 'in spirit' that it is seriously messing up the entire country. People can't seem to keep completely unfounded belief religion to themselves. It ruins it for everyone.
Well God did destroy Sodom and Gomorrah in the old testament and it was full of homosexuals, so I won't deny that he killed gays. Just a side note though, he didn't destroy them just for being gay, he destroyed them because they whole city was a slough of sin, they went around at night doing some very bad things that they didn't explain in children's church.

And the dictator ship thing? Don't make me laugh! Earlier you were whining about how God doesn't fix all the problems in the world, the next moment you are calling him a dictator for being in control, look at your own arguments, do you actually know what you are talking about? You are just making up things that look like they support your side.

I have grown up around Christians, and I guarantee, I have never seen one trying to be a dictator, kill a gay, beat their slave, or hate on blacks. Your stupid trolling stabs are irrelevant.
Dersu brought it up before, Christians are responsible for a huge number of charities and self help programs, they have done a massive amount for the good of this world and yet are among the most persecuted for what they believe.

What are you doing for others? I dare you to answer.
First off i think you may be confusing what the bible says god did versus what it tells people to do. It tells people to kill gays. God also kills gays. So I see your confusion. God is all powerful don't tell me out of thousands there were no innocents like babies etc. when god murders whole peoples it sickens me morally despite stone age moral reasoning.

The Christian religion has been used to consolidate power outside of political boundaries like borders of countries. There is often a supreme leader who cannot be questioned and dictates to followers who feel they have no choice but to follow. I think it is a good analogy.

Finally I donate around 15 thousand us dollars a year to charities of my choice. I volunteer to pick up trash and help keep my neighborhood clean. I donated weeks of my time in the last year to help teach robotics to school age kids. Probably more than you did but if you are poor I don't expect you to be able to contribute as much. I don't need an all powerful mommy threatening eternal spanking to do good for people.

Christiians only do good because they try to convert people and get thier money. It's nearly completely self serving. It's far more moral to help people and not poison thier brains with religion.

Makes me wonder if you wouldn't stop mudering, raping, and stealing if you didn't think Santa was watching you.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#753
First off i think you may be confusing what the bible says god did versus what it tells people to do. It tells people to kill gays. God also kills gays. So I see your confusion. God is all powerful don't tell me out of thousands there were no innocents like babies etc. when god murders whole peoples it sickens me morally despite stone age moral reasoning.

The Christian religion has been used to consolidate power outside of political boundaries like borders of countries. There is often a supreme leader who cannot be questioned and dictates to followers who feel they have no choice but to follow. I think it is a good analogy.

Finally I donate around 15 thousand us dollars a year to charities of my choice. I volunteer to pick up trash and help keep my neighborhood clean. I donated weeks of my time in the last year to help teach robotics to school age kids. Probably more than you did but if you are poor I don't expect you to be able to contribute as much. I don't need an all powerful mommy threatening eternal spanking to do good for people.

Christiians only do good because they try to convert people and get thier money. It's nearly completely self serving. It's far more moral to help people and not poison thier brains with religion.

Makes me wonder if you wouldn't stop mudering, raping, and stealing if you didn't think Santa was watching you.
@ your 2nd paragraph
The christian religion is hardly in power in your country (I understand you are American, correct me if I am wrong), and you are supposed to have a separation between your government and your country's religions. So once again, I do not see how this argument is relevant to your crusade against Christianity.

@ 3rd and 4th paragraph
Not only have you just denounced millions of acts of self-sacrifice and kindness as all being self-serving, you have set up your own measly little "good deeds" as superior, the fact that I think your claims are bullcrap aside as it is irrelevant, cleaning your own neighborhood isn't self-sacrifice, its cleaning your own neighborhood, it is logical and also self serving (not that there is a problem with doing things for yourself, but stop trying to appear righteous over something like that, I doubt you risked death torture or disease to rake the leaves), donating to a charity is nice, if you actually donate to a charity, how cute. My brother risked being killed by guerrilla troopers in the Philippines while helping plant rice and my mother nearly died from food poisoning while helping build houses for people who have nothing deep in Mexico. Thank you for saying what they did was completely self-serving and only for the money, I'll remember that next time I read about a christian being tortured to death or the next time I have a personal friend jailed in a 3rd world country for trying to follow what he believes in, its definitely all for the money.

And you had the gall to call me a bigot for saying atheists aren't held to any moral standard other than the law.

@ 4th paragraph
I have never murdered or raped anyone and I have not stolen anything since I was 6 and stole candy from the pantry, I also never believed in Santa. What is your point?

Re: A discussion about religion

#754
Also, just gonna throw this out there, good people dont need to have people call them good, in the bible we are told many times that god is good, if we removed those chapters, and had someone read the bible, what would god look like? He would look like a dictator, he would look like adolf hittlers role model, he kills mass amounts of gays, he hates people of other religions and "condemns them to hell" he hates blacks, the guy is a dictator, plain and simple.
Where in the Bible does it say God hates blacks? It looks like you are just trying to be as offensive as possible. You are making the same stupid stabs that people have been correcting over and over, are you a troll?

Also, why do the Christian's god's actions matter to you? You don't believe in him so you should not be bringing it up, it is irrelevant to whether or not he exists. You are making a logical fallacy by changing the subject from the discussion to hating on the christian god, and your facts aren't even straight.
It matters to me because morons blind belief results in deaths. People saying " I don't need vaccines because science is wrong and god will save me" 6 months later, the funeral is held, ignorance kills people.

Re: A discussion about religion

#755
Dersu dont bother, he is a 10-12 year old, he won't understand, no offence solo but some things just come with age, the brain is of fully developed at age 25, when you are that age you will be able to make a more informed choice based on evidence, hope to see you with us atheists in 15 years time
Many people, if not most, decide things based on social pressure and feelings - facts never enter in. And sadly it only is worse past 25 - many can't face up to themselves that they have been lying to themselves and others their entire life and those around them they are close to are wrong or have also been living a lie. If they haven't been able to see plain reason before that it's probably too late.
A true scientist feels the urge to base their opinions on facts, as I do, if something has no evidence behind it, then it is but a poorly-made theory to me
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Re: A discussion about religion

#756
@Plus3 I do agree some Christian Churches are only after money and are self serving, however because of the fact that you categorized every Christian religion under that statement makes you an ignorant moronic individual. No more to say here.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#757
@eldrick you dare me? I help out at an old persons home occasionally, I litter pick around my local park when ever there is a large amount of litter and I support 3 charities, btw no I don't want respect from pessimistic people such as yourself, what do you do for society, reply, I dare you.

Re: A discussion about religion

#758
And eldrick, have you even heard of any Christian charities, for example, the majority of them, will go to Africa and give food. They will then give a 2 hour sermon about the food, and if you are one of the african kids who cant be fussed to sit through it because you gotta get water for you family? Tough. No food for you. They are only nice to get you to convert. Like Jehovah's witnesses, they manipulate your mind into liking them.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#759
You said it sickens you morally, what moral standard are you following?
So some1 killing some1 else who is innocent doesn't sicken you? Nice to know you are a freak sociopath :)

Re: A discussion about religion

#760
And another point eldrick, hittler fixed a lot of Germany before he started the holocaust, a dictator can help, kin Jong Il, he vastly improved the country, but at the cost of many lives being ruined. Read man read, wise up on facts, not fiction. I dare you.

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