Celtic Heroes

So your god decides not to keep people alive, you won't stab yourself because you would die, you know, death. The thing GOD gave you? Ya, what a nice guy. Also I thought you wernt religious eld?

You are replying to a comment I made to someone else where I was giving an analogy as an example for a flaw in his argument, but your response is completely based on your emotions and how you feel about the way the world is. People die. That is reality. Accept it and move forward. Of course I am not stabbing myself, are you trying to be clever with this comment? Why are you saying god gave me death? I thought you did not believe in god. Are you just picking at whatever you think you can use to be insulting? What does me being religious or not have to do with me accepting death as a part of our world? Aren't you the one saying we should accept reality?

Also who is eld? Learn to type.

Also, just feel like pointing out, the simple fact of the matter is you people are to lost to understand logical reason, it has been proven that the human mind can get transfixed on the fake so much that no logical reasoning or evidence can bring them back, it is a trick that internet "catfish" have been exploiting to great profit. Where is the evidence! Where is gods evidence! Show me the proof or shut up! (And btw the quote that the bible knew the earth was round before normal people did is invalid, proof of a round earth had been tracked back to Greece 500 bc)

You are the one lost to reality, I gave an argument for god and you have failed to present any other suitable option. All you have done is whined, insulted and made stupid arguments. I don't agree with him on some levels, but at least Plus3 is capable of holding a conversation, you are coming across as an arrogant and ignorant brat who does not know his place.

Another thing, over population isnt a problem with immortality, what does over population cause? Lets see. It causes lack of food. More green house gas emissions and more space needed to accommodate the people, space isnt really an issue as we dont need farms hospitals or any of that due to immortality, global warming wont harm us as a species at all really because of immortality. God messed up. Face it. Also why does god have to exist with a conscious? The whole christian religion is very close minded and yet you are accusing us of being close minded. Pathetic.

"God messed up" has nothing to do with the rest of your post and is just slammed in there so you can accomplish your mission of trolling. And why are you saying god is messed up if you don't even believe a god exists? That means you believe he is only inside of people's heads, therefore, humans are messed up. We all know that. God being messed up or not has nothing to do with the reality or farce of his existence.
The world is messed up because people live in it. That is reality. Face it. Stop blaming a god you don't even believe in, that is incredibly illogical. You are the one saying we should accept reality, how about you accept it?

Many of you seem to think that Christians are greedy, cruel, deceived, bigots. First of all not all people who say they are Christians really are Christians. Second i am not saying i am perfect. I am definately not. I have many faults. I am selfish. I am a sinner. The difference between me and unsaved people is the fact that i have asked God for forgiveness. I believe in him. But I did not get saved through works. I believe that it is grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Not of works lest anyman should boast. God gave me this gift. He opened my eyes. I thank him for that. I need his help every day. I do not hate people because they are gay; i just believe it is wrong. I do not hate someone because they committed adultery; i just believe it is wrong. I do not hate people for committing formication; i just believe it is wrong. I believe that many sins are very harmful as well. Fornication is what introduced many std's. The only way to get aids is either to get blood from somebody who had it or...well you know. Christians should not be self-righteous. Many true Christians suffer from this. Me probably included. We are not. We were chosen by God. It was nothing we did. We must remember this.

Close minded = refusing to listen to and consider other opinions or points of view. Does not accept the possibility of being wrong.

Open minded = having your own opinions and points of view but being willing to listen to and consider other opinions and points of view. Does not necessarily change. Accepts the possibility of being wrong.

Idiocy = having no opinion or point of view of your own and just accepting everything you are told.

I see all three categories among Christians, atheists and just about every other belief.

So... I have aquestion or possibly a series of questions.

To what extent does a god control the universe? There are processes everywhere. Some small and some large. It seems that anything large and hard to understand is attributed to a god but the small things like water is just a normal insignificant cycle.

However, if existence really is just one process outiside of god's control, what is the purpose of god? Is it to make us seem somewhat significant in the universe? Did we, humans, create a god out of fear of being just an insignificant spec in the universe. Just one intelligent species out of thousands of other species that may exist and may even possess greater intelligence.

So... I have aquestion or possibly a series of questions.

To what extent does a god control the universe? There are processes everywhere. Some small and some large. It seems that anything large and hard to understand is attributed to a god but the small things like water is just a normal insignificant cycle.

However, if existence really is just one process outiside of god's control, what is the purpose of god? Is it to make us seem somewhat significant in the universe? Did we, humans, create a god out of fear of being just an insignificant spec in the universe. Just one intelligent species out of thousands of other species that may exist and may even possess greater intelligence.

Am i allowed to tell you what Christians believe? If not then i cnt answer ur last question. God controls everything. Or I should say everything goes according to His plan. We cannot surprise God. We are definately not outside Gods control. And may i ask a question? What us evolution but an excuse not to need God; in other words you could say that evolution was "discovered" in order to make us feel independent. I think that evolution was thought up because Charles Darwin and Co. Did not want to believe in God; not because it made sense. No offense

So... I have aquestion or possibly a series of questions.

To what extent does a god control the universe? There are processes everywhere. Some small and some large. It seems that anything large and hard to understand is attributed to a god but the small things like water is just a normal insignificant cycle.

However, if existence really is just one process outiside of god's control, what is the purpose of god? Is it to make us seem somewhat significant in the universe? Did we, humans, create a god out of fear of being just an insignificant spec in the universe. Just one intelligent species out of thousands of other species that may exist and may even possess greater intelligence.

Am i allowed to tell you what Christians believe? If not then i cnt answer ur last question. God controls everything. Or I should say everything goes according to His plan. We cannot surprise God. We are definately not outside Gods control. And may i ask a question? What us evolution but an excuse not to need God; in other words you could say that evolution was "discovered" in order to make us feel independent. I think that evolution was thought up because Charles Darwin and Co. Did not want to believe in God; not because it made sense. No offense

You may tell me whatever you wish. I have no reason to be offended.

What exactly is God's plan? This enquiry is genuine curiosity with no intention to insult. If fate is set in stone to one big plan, would that not contradict free will. What is the purpose of free will if what was, is, and will be is forever determined?

Your perception for the development of evolution is not entirely correct. Yes, it could be seen as an alternative to pure creation but I do not believe it is. In fact, this thread has already come to a general understanding that evolution is independent of the existence of god.

Charles Darwin did not go out seeking to disprove god. He believed in god before investigating his idea of natural selection and after his visit to the Galápagos Islands he still believed in god. His belief was modified but not destroyed. He sought out an answer to his question, not an alternative to god. Such is the nature of life, to ask a question and then to seek out an answer and as Dersu's quote put it, you do not seek out an answer to remain happy. You seek out an answer to be satisfied in understanding just a tad bit more about life and the nature of the universe.

I personally believe that God has set up a massive road. We are the cars on that road. God has planned for every possibility, so the road has many Roads leading off. We simply choose which to take.

I believe in god but also in evolution. God triggered the Big Bang, making the earth and everything else in seven days. Over time, creatures evolved into us. Im christian and i dont like homosexuality, but it's only fair to allow people to do what they want. Why would God make some people Homosexual?