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Re: A discussion about religion

#1092
The end is near and the world has changed, all signs point toward it, science is amazing, yet doesn't provide us with all the answers and is still flawed, but when the day is here, I would love to see science save you.
Tell me what saves people more, god or science.
And there's no "god created medicine" or "god put the ideals of medicine into someone's mind." and no miracles saves more lives than anything else bullox.

And at least science provides more answers and SUPPORTS those answers than the bible does, did the bible predict we are getting hit by a meteor in a few years? NO. Science and technology led us to that. Did it predict AIDS would come from chimps (or HIV if you wanna get technical) Or did it foretold that people will be able to be revived through discoveries?

Tell me, when the meteor starts falling into earths gravity how god is going to save us, and how badly science is gonna kick gods ass when it comes to saving lives, something he's proud to have taken over very stupid mistakes (David's census anyone?).

Think sol said "Murdering is a choice... Homosexuality is a choice", so tell me, what does that say about God when he CHOSE to kill everyone off in a flood, infect a whole city, kill the sons of some king, and basically endangered all the species of animals. And tell me, when did you choose to be heterosexual? And tell me how you can choose to suddenly be gay and hire a male escort to pleasure your new vibe.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1093
I don't see why people cant believe in themself. Instead of saying "ohh god has plans for *somedude*" why not say god has plans for you? Why not work yourself. You think god didnt put effort into the world? We are all models of god as the bible states, ergo. We have the ability to do everything
I didnt know humans could suddenly grow wings and fly around, or get gills and swim underwater, or even make our eyes see in the infrared.

Know what allows that? SCIENCE (metaphorically, we made a vehicle that we use to fly, we made scuba gear to breath underwater, and made goggles to see infrared). Your argument is invalid and you should have seen that coming.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1094
The end is near and the world has changed, all signs point toward it, science is amazing, yet doesn't provide us with all the answers and is still flawed, but when the day is here, I would love to see science save you.
Tell me what saves people more, god or science.
And there's no "god created medicine" or "god put the ideals of medicine into someone's mind." and no miracles saves more lives than anything else bullox.

And at least science provides more answers and SUPPORTS those answers than the bible does, did the bible predict we are getting hit by a meteor in a few years? NO. Science and technology led us to that. Did it predict AIDS would come from chimps (or HIV if you wanna get technical) Or did it foretold that people will be able to be revived through discoveries?

Tell me, when the meteor starts falling into earths gravity how god is going to save us, and how badly science is gonna kick gods ass when it comes to saving lives, something he's proud to have taken over very stupid mistakes (David's census anyone?).

Think sol said "Murdering is a choice... Homosexuality is a choice", so tell me, what does that say about God when he CHOSE to kill everyone off in a flood, infect a whole city, kill the sons of some king, and basically endangered all the species of animals. And tell me, when did you choose to be heterosexual? And tell me how you can choose to suddenly be gay and hire a male escort to pleasure your new vibe.
I made a few people here already squirm uncomfortably with that angle. They said every last person was guilty of sin and transgressions against god. So I replied 'babies too?'. Yes god is a baby murderer - those whose only crime was being born. Murdering the baby for the crimes of the father was acceptable to these bronze age goat herders so it's no surprise it fits into thier bronze age morality.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1095
I don't see why people cant believe in themself. Instead of saying "ohh god has plans for *somedude*" why not say god has plans for you? Why not work yourself. You think god didnt put effort into the world? We are all models of god as the bible states, ergo. We have the ability to do everything
I didnt know humans could suddenly grow wings and fly around, or get gills and swim underwater, or even make our eyes see in the infrared.

Know what allows that? SCIENCE (metaphorically, we made a vehicle that we use to fly, we made scuba gear to breath underwater, and made goggles to see infrared). Your argument is invalid and you should have seen that coming.

You are bringing sound logic and facts to a crazy fight. Sorry but that is a recipe for instafail.

Try some snark and condemnation. Throw in some good hyperbole. Show religion the respect it deserves. No one should be respected for having views in contrary to facts or bigoted views of people. It's about time the bulk of the world stopped giving that drivel the cover of respectability.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1096
As much as I think this is wrong to discuss this... I will say that i have contemplated the fact of my life being perceived by a God. I do believe in God, being a Christian, but I personally believe in a different format of living. That my mind is my sanctuary, that is where I can go and it cannot be seen by anyone or anything. On the other hand, I believe that my body is a responsibility given to me to look after by God.

Yes. This is very deep :D but its what I believe. I also think its quite awesome to say "hey, see you guys, I'm just off to my mind for a coffee and a half hour chat with my conscience"
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1097
I don't see why people cant believe in themself. Instead of saying "ohh god has plans for *somedude*" why not say god has plans for you? Why not work yourself. You think god didnt put effort into the world? We are all models of god as the bible states, ergo. We have the ability to do everything
I didnt know humans could suddenly grow wings and fly around, or get gills and swim underwater, or even make our eyes see in the infrared.

Know what allows that? SCIENCE (metaphorically, we made a vehicle that we use to fly, we made scuba gear to breath underwater, and made goggles to see infrared). Your argument is invalid and you should have seen that coming.
Yo wrist slapper, ive been the atheist poster on here longer than you and there are limits to what humans can do however, it has been shown through the connections between the mind and body that a good positive outlook can boost your immunity, and even help slow the process of aging.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1098
I don't see why people cant believe in themself. Instead of saying "ohh god has plans for *somedude*" why not say god has plans for you? Why not work yourself. You think god didnt put effort into the world? We are all models of god as the bible states, ergo. We have the ability to do everything
I didnt know humans could suddenly grow wings and fly around, or get gills and swim underwater, or even make our eyes see in the infrared.

Know what allows that? SCIENCE (metaphorically, we made a vehicle that we use to fly, we made scuba gear to breath underwater, and made goggles to see infrared). Your argument is invalid and you should have seen that coming.

You are bringing sound logic and facts to a crazy fight. Sorry but that is a recipe for instafail.

Try some snark and condemnation. Throw in some good hyperbole. Show religion the respect it deserves. No one should be respected for having views in contrary to facts or bigoted views of people. It's about time the bulk of the world stopped giving that drivel the cover of respectability.
Yo other wrist slapper, you already know im an atheist poster here plus3. Look to my previous post to see my reason for this post. And yes, before you argue the mind over body phenomena is well-observed in the scientific community. By saying im religious when im atheist is actually offensive, its like seeing a bald person and saying they have pink hair, its like having bread on butter and then asking urself what flavour cheese there is. Its absurd.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1099
Just one quick thing. Vraelen u said that u believed in ordered chaos. Ordered chaos? That sounds a little contradictory. How cn chaos be ordered? Chaos means, well, confusion and well a lot of other things. Chaos is not ordered. When an office is on fire usually everyone runs around screaming and panicking. This is chaos. As far as i knw i have never seen things being chaotic in an orderly way. Just sayin.

*give me an example outside evolution in which there was orderly chaos.
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Re: A discussion about religion

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I didnt know humans could suddenly grow wings and fly around, or get gills and swim underwater, or even make our eyes see in the infrared.

Know what allows that? SCIENCE (metaphorically, we made a vehicle that we use to fly, we made scuba gear to breath underwater, and made goggles to see infrared). Your argument is invalid and you should have seen that coming.

You are bringing sound logic and facts to a crazy fight. Sorry but that is a recipe for instafail.

Try some snark and condemnation. Throw in some good hyperbole. Show religion the respect it deserves. No one should be respected for having views in contrary to facts or bigoted views of people. It's about time the bulk of the world stopped giving that drivel the cover of respectability.
Yo other wrist slapper, you already know im an atheist poster here plus3. Look to my previous post to see my reason for this post. And yes, before you argue the mind over body phenomena is well-observed in the scientific community. By saying im religious when im atheist is actually offensive, its like seeing a bald person and saying they have pink hair, its like having bread on butter and then asking urself what flavour cheese there is. Its absurd.
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