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That said 8+ mord skill rings can be better than damage rings as most of rogue dps is actually skill based now, simply due to insane boss defence

Completely incorrect. I've just proven this a few posts ago. U attack every .7 seconds no skill could in their life keep up.

Attack every .7 seconds and miss 6/10 times or more, skills hit much more often than that.

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That said 8+ mord skill rings can be better than damage rings as most of rogue dps is actually skill based now, simply due to insane boss defence

Completely incorrect. I've just proven this a few posts ago. U attack every .7 seconds no skill could in their life keep up.

You obviously do not have proper testing experience then. A skills rogue will always get the kill over an auto rogue on the current end game bosses due to boss defence causing so many melees to miss

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That said 8+ mord skill rings can be better than damage rings as most of rogue dps is actually skill based now, simply due to insane boss defence

Completely incorrect. I've just proven this a few posts ago. U attack every .7 seconds no skill could in their life keep up.

You obviously do not have proper testing experience then. A skills rogue will always get the kill over an auto rogue on the current end game bosses due to boss defence causing so many melees to miss

^this is the truth.

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That said 8+ mord skill rings can be better than damage rings as most of rogue dps is actually skill based now, simply due to insane boss defence

Completely incorrect. I've just proven this a few posts ago. U attack every .7 seconds no skill could in their life keep up.

You obviously do not have proper testing experience then. A skills rogue will always get the kill over an auto rogue on the current end game bosses due to boss defence causing so many melees to miss

Your misunderstanding. Any rogue who goes and fake autos is clearly a waste. The point is the minimal difference a skill ring vs a good dmg ring or bracelet a dmg ring will be more effective. Going back to my 80 dmg calculation it's doing 122 a second. Just going with your guesstimating of 1/4 of the dmg your at 30 dmg a second and imo still low but I'll play the game. That's 1830 a min. And u get 4 sneaks in a minute so 1830/4 that's 457. Your royal sneaky ring would need to add 457 each hit. But wait let's not forget 80 dmg is also 80 dmg to sneaky right? Yes, so now you need 537 a hit. The same will work for double. And the fact you just disrupted like 5-6 hits using these skills. If skills were this amazing mages would be getting a few more boss kills and not a single has ever gotten a kill on my server. There's far too much attack items around to still be complaining about boss defense.

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That said 8+ mord skill rings can be better than damage rings as most of rogue dps is actually skill based now, simply due to insane boss defence

Completely incorrect. I've just proven this a few posts ago. U attack every .7 seconds no skill could in their life keep up.

You obviously do not have proper testing experience then. A skills rogue will always get the kill over an auto rogue on the current end game bosses due to boss defence causing so many melees to miss

Your misunderstanding. Any rogue who goes and fake autos is clearly a waste. The point is the minimal difference a skill ring vs a good dmg ring or bracelet a dmg ring will be more effective. Going back to my 80 dmg calculation it's doing 122 a second. Just going with your guesstimating of 1/4 of the dmg your at 30 dmg a second and imo still low but I'll play the game. That's 1830 a min. And u get 4 sneaks in a minute so 1830/4 that's 457. Your royal sneaky ring would need to add 457 each hit. But wait let's not forget 80 dmg is also 80 dmg to sneaky right? Yes, so now you need 537 a hit. The same will work for double. And the fact you just disrupted like 5-6 hits using these skills. If skills were this amazing mages would be getting a few more boss kills and not a single has ever gotten a kill on my server. There's far too much attack items around to still be complaining about boss defense.[/quote]

You are still wrong, it takes a mix of auto and skill to take kills. Skills trump auto though. And yes, even with 4k attack I guarantee over half your melee will miss on mordris

I am not here to debate which method is better, be it skills or meele.

The fact is there is no rogue out there who sticks to just one method. It makes no sense to do so.

I would like to add that if Dragon lot weapon is 1700 speed then adding a haste elixir will not lower your hit attack to 850 or whatever was quoted. For it to get to that level the attack speed would have to double i.e. 100% increase in attack speed.

Since Haste is 70% from what i remember then true speed of the attack is actually 1000 .

This is calculated by speed of attack \ ( 1 + attack percent increase as a decimal point).

So with haste this would be 1700 \(1 + 0.7( as this 70% in decimal format))

Which equal 1700 / 1.7 = 1000 attack speed . I.e one hit per second.

I have no doubt tht my 4 rogue skills will comfortably do more dmg than auto but why do I care , i use skills and auto lol.

I am not here to debate which method is better, be it skills or meele.

The fact is there is no rogue out there who sticks to just one method. It makes no sense to do so.

I would like to add that if Dragon lot weapon is 1700 speed then adding a haste elixir will not lower your hit attack to 850 or whatever was quoted. For it to get to that level the attack speed would have to double i.e. 100% increase in attack speed.

Since Haste is 70% from what i remember then true speed of the attack is actually 1000 .

This is calculated by speed of attack \ ( 1 + attack percent increase as a decimal point).

So with haste this would be 1700 \(1 + 0.7( as this 70% in decimal format))

Which equal 1700 / 1.7 = 1000 attack speed . I.e one hit per second.

I have no doubt tht my 4 rogue skills will comfortably do more dmg than auto but why do I care , i use skills and auto lol.

This is literally nothing in this post that is correct.

First dl wep is 1850.
Haste is 50%.
Not sure where you learned percent but wow.

1850 x .6 = 1150
1850-1150 = 700

No one just uses auto i said that before and I have no idea why both of you are restating that, that is my claim. My claim is "dmg ring will give higher dps than a skill ring." You've yet to prove anything besides making blanket claims at defense which literally impossible to see. However i will say necro must have low defense bcuz i land atleast 60% of autos and no smoke bomb up. Give me facts or dont waste your time please bcuz i wont argue things that can never be proven.

dl wep is 1850 true, but haste (at least heroic) is 60%

dl wep is 1850 true, but haste (at least heroic) is 60%

Lol is there any other kind?

dl wep is 1850 true, but haste (at least heroic) is 60%

Lol is there any other kind?

super and normal, super is 50% and normal is 25%