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Re: DL Double Dice System Final Step

#12
Should only be for getting mainhands, you don't need a million offhands as their effects don't stack.

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Mage offhand skill is a one time aoe hit with a 3 min cooldown.
Ranger offhand skill is a self-buff.
Druid offhand skill is an area chaos buff.

The only two that do not "stack" are the rogue and warrior skills.
The warrior skill (a sort of a div dmg cloak) is only effective if the warrior is a tank. (So, 1-3 warriors at a fight)
I hear that rogue skill (a very nice dot that does up to 1200? 1400? dmg per tick and lasts 20 sec? 30 sec?) can be kept constantly up on a boss by 2-3 rogues who coordinate. At the moment, we have 2? rogues with the dl offhand.

Correct me if I am wrong about the rogue stuff.

Another thing we have to consider is the other boosts from the offhands. For casters, the dl offhand seems to be the best.
I am not sure if the the offhands of the other classes beat out their lux counterparts (For instance, the warrior offhand is a poor choice for a dps warrior.)

Another consideration is that we need offhands not only on the boss but also on the ghost adds. (at necro)

Thoughts?
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Re: DL Double Dice System Final Step

#13
Should only be for getting mainhands, you don't need a million offhands as their effects don't stack.

C
Mage offhand skill is a one time aoe hit with a 3 min cooldown.
Ranger offhand skill is a self-buff.
Druid offhand skill is an area chaos buff.

The only two that do not "stack" are the rogue and warrior skills.
The warrior skill (a sort of a div dmg cloak) is only effective if the warrior is a tank. (So, 1-3 warriors at a fight)
I hear that rogue skill (a very nice dot that does up to 1200? 1400? dmg per tick and lasts 20 sec? 30 sec?) can be kept constantly up on a boss by 2-3 rogues who coordinate. At the moment, we have 2? rogues with the dl offhand.

Correct me if I am wrong about the rogue stuff.

Another thing we have to consider is the other boosts from the offhands. For casters, the dl offhand seems to be the best.
I am not sure if the the offhands of the other classes beat out their lux counterparts (For instance, the warrior offhand is a poor choice for a dps warrior.)

Another consideration is that we need offhands not only on the boss but also on the ghost adds. (at necro)

Thoughts?
This rule hardly affects mages and rangers as those colours are plentiful, and once again as the bonuses do not stack you will NOT need 5+ druids with offhands at any scenario. This double dicing is really meant to help warriors and rogues if you think about it and those are 2 classes where more than 2 offhands are redundant. Sure we could get more people offhands, that'd be great; but the main concern is mainhands as those will be just as effective no matter how many people have them.

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Re: DL Double Dice System Final Step

#14
A

I was under the impression this new double dice rule would be to try and benefit the 190+ to try and get their mains and offhands to kill a 190 boss?

It is the 190+'s that have put more time into this waiting game for crowns than anyone, they are the ones, imo, that should only be allowed to dub roll.

Re: DL Double Dice System Final Step

#15
I am totally against, if someone has already both mainhand weapon and offand, to get to roll twice!!!
I will only vote after this post can possibly be edited, to get the full weapon dl people, to roll just once. then my vote would be A.
but atm, i refrain from voting.
If a warrior 190+ and he already has a dl weapon and a dl shield, is there a way to clarify in the original post, that he can't roll twice?
maybe that's what you meant, but it wasn't clear and this part could easily be abused.
sorry to repeat twice : )
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Re: DL Double Dice System Final Step

#17
I am totally against, if someone has already both mainhand weapon and offand, to get to roll twice!!!
I will only vote after this post can possibly be edited, to get the full weapon dl people, to roll just once. then my vote would be A.
but atm, i refrain from voting.
If a warrior 190+ and he already has a dl weapon and a dl shield, is there a way to clarify in the original post, that he can't roll twice?
maybe that's what you meant, but it wasn't clear and this part could easily be abused.
sorry to repeat twice : )

You're right, this should be clarified. I was assuming though that even full DL weapon toons would still get to roll twice, but I am also assuming that if those toons should win a crown, that they would share that with someone who needs....but I guess we all know what happens when you ASS-U-ME. ;)

Re: DL Double Dice System Final Step

#18
Honestly i am totally against this rule, but as the total majority voted for it i cannot argue, except the fact that this should be for the people who do camp the boss, the people who do turn up time after time for a crown. Not those who turn up because they were called. Not those semi-active people, who overall dont help with bosses. Not those people who wouldnt make full use of this wep.

That is why i am against this.

But again i state. This was voted for by the 'majority' (185+)

I think the only realistic answer for this is C. Why? Because you can plat to 190 in a matter of days from 180. Why do they deserve better chances? You pay money to get better chances? No. You pay money to further your account. People who dont pay for their levels are honestly more important than plat players. I would always help those players over a plataholic. Ive always believed in this.

Yes i have a crown, no i wont give it to someone like Instant. No i wont give it to anyone, unless i know them well. Vulture, stahle and azz are the only people i would consider LENDING my crown to. Theyre trustworthy, people and have earned my trust. We help each other when needed and even when we are not. Lugh needs to learn to do this or else no one will kill anything soon enough.

There are a select few people i would like to name who dont lend/share drops or even repay drops but i shant due to the forum rules and the drama that would ensue. Unless someone states oh i dont want this until you finish or keep the drop. You have to repay asap. I have a few friends that allowed me to get full dl on rogue in just over 2 months, of hardcore camping. Ive seen 3 purple crowns drop, all went to different people. 1 got a mainhand wep, but what good is that if i can still out dps them? Honestly, look at who would make the wep most effective before gearing them.
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Re: DL Double Dice System Final Step

#20
A
It is the 190+'s that have put more time into this waiting game for crowns than anyone, they are the ones, imo, that should only be allowed to dub roll.
What about Vult and I and several others who were camping Snorri before some of the current 190+ even started playing? Have we not put more time in?
Level does not equal time spent camping bosses. At all. Use a different arguement to get 190+ only to roll double, not that they spent more time camping.

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