Celtic Heroes

I think this is a great thread. I like seeing what everyone has to say about this topic and finding out how everything happened. I played a little in v1 but quit and came back during v3 or whatever. But I really like what everyone had to say so far and if anyone still has any info to add in

That being said here are hard questions for veterans to consider.

For as long as i remember Somar was the leader of Defiant.

1. For those who remember Somar, What would Somar do about the Resetting Wars?

Somar would have fanned the flames. There was absolutely no love loss with Somar and he would do what he needed to win. He was furious when he came back and Prime was formed without his knowledge or consent.

Back in those days Defiant and ChosenOnes were top and they hated eachother. Words cannot decribe the hate between them, it is like prime and unbreak times 129420.

2. So, the pieces that were formally at war, joined to create Prime? Who's Idea was this? As the group who suggested this should be preserved in the Historical context of Danu of Legends. Who suggested this early? During the phases in which he or she was laughed at?

The idea came from different guardians in the two clans talking a lot. The driving forces from the Defiant side were Guffy and Rem, Chosen side was Cheech and a few others. I'm not 100% about the Chosen side of the house, I just know the discussions some of us had with Rem and Guffy on Defiant side.

2.a. Was the transition smooth or rough? How do two clans who formally hated each other work together to dominate? How were the diehards loyal to their clan to a fault persuaded?

The transition was smooth enough. Like Smeagle said, there were still cliques in Prime and you would defintely see small groups forming. Cheech tried to mitigate this by promoting a mix of guards from both clans. Eventually the lines broke down and we started all working together. Some of the diehards joined just because their friends went to Prime, others quit playing.

Reaper was chief of Chosen and Somar was chief of Defiant

3. Based on what is known about these two, what would they do, if anything, about the Resetting Wars.

Nothing, resetting would happen all the same if they were still active.

It lasted a long while but eventually many Defiant members left to join ChosenOnes and Defient began its downfall.
At this time Somar was on a break or may have quit (to soon return for a short time) idk wat he was doin. Whilst Defient was sinking Clandeathtine was the chief and did all he could to keep the clan goining but unfortanately it was to late

So Defiant, weakened and members left to the Chosen Ones

4. Is this similar to the way Honour (Nitro) is becoming weakened as members are leaving for Prime? Or is the current situation not comparable and different from this.

As I said previously, Defiant never had any sort of exodus to ChosenOnes. Defiant kept it's core members until Prime was formed, as did Chosen. So this situation isn't comparable. It seems like Honour has some internal termoil that Defiant didn't have.

Very soon after Cheech created Prime!!!! All the rest of Defiant and all of ChosenOnes went to Prime to make it wat it is today

So, Cheech facilitated the birth of Prime through combining an already weakened Defiant with the Chosen Ones who previously were at war.

I find this interesting that two previously warring factions combined and ended up dominating the world.

The merge was in everyones interest. We didn't want to go into OW and have to fight over bosses. The clans were so evenly matched that it was always neck and neck at bosses.

cheech decided to merge clans to be able to handle the new bosses in v3

6. So the strategy was to combine forces in preparation of the new update which obviously was effective, but to say one person decided would maybe be far fetched. Was there anyone else who decided this with Cheech? And if so who is this person?.

Cheech, Rem, Guffy and I am sure a few other Chosen members made the decision. Rem and Guffy had a lot of conversations with Defiant members in preparation to discuss how to best make the transition, and even many Defiant members voted that Cheech would be the best fit for Chief as Rem didn't want to work as hard as he had in the game.

6a. That being said and drawing from my experiences of Danu, it appears that the new update looming, the old strategy of reaching out to a warring faction to combine forces has been replaced by Prime lower level requirements in order to gain more forces in preparation for the new update. I assume this because at the time of lower lvl requirements Prime was already in control of Danu. Is this true, or am I thinking too much.

I would say you put a little too much thought into this. The lower level req was used to bring new life into the clan. We figured people needed more than 1 option for a good hard working clan. The lower req was to provide options and help new players.

No one from Defiant joined Chosenones. We all kept our respective clans until the Defiant and Chosen guards made Prime. Then after much discussion, like 3am said, those of use who were considering staying in Defiant, left the clan and followed the other Defiant members over to Prime. Most of the leaving and joining was done at the North Penn leystone in lirs.

So there is disagreement in Defiant bleeding members to Chosen Ones beforehand. Putting this aside for a moment.

No one in either clan would disagree with my statement. Defiant was just as strong the day Prime was formed as it was in the months leading up to the merger.

7. Was Chosen Ones and Defiant at equal strength during the merger or was one stronger than the other? When I ask stronger I mean obviously stronger, if it was slightly…then consider it equal for this question pls.

The representation from both clans was pretty even. I would say that ChosenOnes may have had the stronger presence at first just due to the reluctance of some of the core Defiant members to join right away.

To Qmagnet
How in the world did u come up with that?
the clans didnt just join all at once. Defiant was breaking up coz some players left, causeing friends for those players to leave.
Defiant was breaking up (and there is no way u can say they didnt), ChpsenOnes and Defiant discussed Prime coz Defiant were on the brink of destruction.
I know this coz i was in Defiant when it was very weak, i spoke to Cland myself in cc with others, discussing the future of Defiant. Cland will tell u himself that the 2 clans didnt join suddenly. they would not have joined if Defiant didnt start falling apart.
Btw, i remember Queef in those days, lvl 40 one day, 78 the next, plat does wonderfull things. Im not saying thats a bad thing tho.

To Cazz
HAHAHAAHAHAHA, stop trying to hide cazz, those words do not affect me beacuse... 1. they are not words, only *. and 2. even if they were the real words i dont care, u just fustrated that ppl still know about that aciedent that u had, its ok, here... come lean on my shoulder
U were the 3rd best coz u have a nice big boost. U said it in clan chat when u did it lol.

"I just scammed a noob of a hero rejuv, he wanted to transfer" (Cazzone, 2012)

Many ppl remember you doin that. Put the past behind u mate, dont get worked up over it little boy...

To Qmagnet
How in the world did u come up with that?
the clans didnt just join all at once. Defiant was breaking up coz some players left, causeing friends for those players to leave.
Defiant was breaking up (and there is no way u can say they didnt), ChpsenOnes and Defiant discussed Prime coz Defiant were on the brink of destruction.
I know this coz i was in Defiant when it was very weak, i spoke to Cland myself in cc with others, discussing the future of Defiant. Cland will tell u himself that the 2 clans didnt join suddenly. they would not have joined if Defiant didnt start falling apart.
Btw, i remember Queef in those days, lvl 40 one day, 78 the next, plat does wonderfull things. Im not saying thats a bad thing tho.

How on earth did I come up with it? Well let's see, maybe because I was there when this all went down along with a lot of other still active ex Defiant members. You were never in Defiant until after Prime formed. You joined when it was very weak, but it was very weak because everyone left to join Prime. You don't know as much as you think you know regarding the merger. Defiant broke up, so did Chosen, and yes, the majority of the clans did all leave and join Prime at once. Cland tried to keep Defiant going after 90% of us joined Prime but eventually followed to be with his friends.

How on earth did I come up with it? Well let's see, maybe because I was there when this all went down along with a lot of other still active ex Defiant members. You were never in Defiant until after Prime formed. You joined when it was very weak, but it was very weak because everyone left to join Prime. You don't know as much as you think you know regarding the merger. Defiant broke up, so did Chosen, and yes, the majority of the clans did all leave and join Prime at once. Cland tried to keep Defiant going after 90% of us joined Prime but eventually followed to be with his friends.[/quote]







yep,and we still around lol

To Qmagnet
How in the world did u come up with that?
the clans didnt just join all at once. Defiant was breaking up coz some players left, causeing friends for those players to leave.
Defiant was breaking up (and there is no way u can say they didnt), ChpsenOnes and Defiant discussed Prime coz Defiant were on the brink of destruction.
I know this coz i was in Defiant when it was very weak, i spoke to Cland myself in cc with others, discussing the future of Defiant. Cland will tell u himself that the 2 clans didnt join suddenly. they would not have joined if Defiant didnt start falling apart.
Btw, i remember Queef in those days, lvl 40 one day, 78 the next, plat does wonderfull things. Im not saying thats a bad thing tho.

How on earth did I come up with it? Well let's see, maybe because I was there when this all went down along with a lot of other still active ex Defiant members. You were never in Defiant until after Prime formed. You joined when it was very weak, but it was very weak because everyone left to join Prime. You don't know as much as you think you know regarding the merger. Defiant broke up, so did Chosen, and yes, the majority of the clans did all leave and join Prime at once. Cland tried to keep Defiant going after 90% of us joined Prime but eventually followed to be with his friends.

How about u get ur unfathomable right before u start stating things. I was in Defiant a long time mate, u have no idea about me and Defiant. Ho can u say i was only in Defiant after Prime was created? U dont even know me. lol
In your previous post, u said that Defiant didnt break up, majority all just merged. They didnt lol, get it through ur thick head.
REM himself left Defiant to Chosen, then many followers joined after him. reducing Defiant numbers alot. Defiant became weaker and weaker.Then many joined prime after it was created some time after REM joined, but 30% still remained, Cland was there, he will know. So the "majority of the clans joined all at once" statement is total bs. The happened in 3 parts over time.
U joined after me lol. like i said, i remember u as a little noob grping me fo help. Then u used ur parents money to get plat coz ur too unfathomable to play the game and earn it. If big members didnt leave Defiant, then the chain reaction wouldnt have happened, alot of strong members from Defiant when to prime, causeing many others to leave to.

How about u get ur **** right before u start stating things. I was in Defiant a long time mate, u have no idea about me and Defiant. Ho can u say i was only in Defiant after Prime was created? U dont even know me. lol
In your previous post, u said that Defiant didnt break up, majority all just merged. They didnt lol, get it through ur thick head.
REM himself left Defiant to Chosen, then many followers joined after him. reducing Defiant numbers alot. Defiant became weaker and weaker.Then many joined prime after it was created some time after REM joined, but 30% still remained, Cland was there, he will know. So the "majority of the clans joined all at once" statement is total bs. The happened in 3 parts over time.
U joined after me lol. like i said, i remember u as a little noob grping me fo help. Then u used ur parents money to get plat coz ur too **** to play the game and earn it. If big members didnt leave Defiant, then the chain reaction wouldnt have happened, alot of strong members from Defiant when to prime, causeing many others to leave to.

You, again, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Rem never went to Chosenones, this shows how out of touch you were, if you were in the clan like you claim. Rem was one of the first people in Prime, and I assure you, he wore Defiant above his head proudly until he went to Prime. If you were in Defiant for so long, then how is it none of the ex Defiant members who are still playing remember you? You cry and cry because I used plat items to level, but I didn't buy plat until after I hit level 80, and plat is what keeps this game alive, so keep your moronic comments to yourself. You keep telling me Cland was there, he will know. Well, Smeagle, 3am, Blaz, myself and a few others who are still active were there as well, so I'm not really sure why you think Cland has a different story. Yes, Cland stayed behind to try and salvage what was left of Defiant, but the majority of the dedicated members had already joined Prime by this time (with the few exceptions which 3am listed). Stop trying to get your misinformed, non relevant voice heard. Maybe a mod will lock this post now to keep you from spewing any more ignorant blabber.

What queef is saying is true and too my knowledge arach you weren't any better or were you in Defiant before queef,Most of defiants members left alongside Rem to create prime with Chosenones because it would make the update easier if they combined and worked together

Arach i still remember you by your original name Chieftan and you are no were as close to hard working as Queef was, I was lvl 75 to my memory when I seen queef first and by the next few weeks he was already past me, I don't think he bought a lot of plat anyways i seen him mostly farming and btw arach don't try test your knowledge when you were only a low lvl back then and had no clue or knowledge of what was going on, to my knowledge you were a very aggressive player back then and it seems you haven't changed your behavior i think its time for you to grow up

Regards Soulsearcher

What queef is saying is true and too my knowledge arach you weren't any better or were you in Defiant before queef,Most of defiants members left alongside Rem to create prime with Chosenones because it would make the update easier if they combined and worked together

Arach i still remember you by your original name Chieftan and you are no were as close to hard working as Queef was, I was lvl 75 to my memory when I seen queef first and by the next few weeks he was already past me, I don't think he bought a lot of plat anyways i seen him mostly farming and btw arach don't try test your knowledge when you were only a low lvl back then and had no clue or knowledge of what was going on, to my knowledge you were a very aggressive player back then and it seems you haven't changed your behavior i think its time for you to grow up

Regards Soulsearcher

U cannot talk, u quit, shows how hard working u were. Oh!!! and werent u banned for the majority of ChosenOnes and Defiants time on Danu? thought so. I was in Defiant before queef, no doubt about that. It isnt hard work, it the elix doing the work mate. I lvl with no all day long, i dont complain like a little chocolate eclair about the time it takes, i just do it. The reason y i was and still am agressive, is beacuse i see ppl like queef zoom pass everyone in a few days because they buy $100s worth of plat. I can do the same but i choose not too, i find games like CH are mush more enjoyable if u take ur time and soak in everything, other then lvling to the cap and quiting. U even said, withing a few weeks he was past me, wat does that tell u? plat. I wasnt far behind u Coza, u know that, we both saw queef shoot up on the steroids and pass us, but clearly, somethings shrank
Ppl only remmeber the big names back then coz it just the way it was. I wasnt big, yet that doesnt cancel the fact i saw everything with my own eyes. U can say all u want, but ik wat happened, i stood back and saw the hole thing. U can tell all the future gens about wat happened queef, idc, tell them the wrong thing to make ur self look big and mr know it all.

Sorry Baison, I told u what u wanted to know, Sorry about the *** that interupted and thought they could rewrite history to suit them.
Exiting this infected argument. Thanks and goodbye

My turn!

I started in nov of 2011 and quickly lvld a war up. Kamm noticed me lvlin fast and gave me a shot in defiant. Back when me kammera and sky with his war and healer would farm stonevale bosses with cheech poppin her head in occasionally to kill one. Was like that for a while until we started to grow a little. I then switched to ranger. Shortly after somar came back from a break. I didnt even know who he was. Shortly after that a clan war broke out between our two clans. Somar hated chosen with a passion. Not really sure why. But he would make sure to do anything to piss off chosen. A merger had been talked about for a while because we were all tired of the war. But it kept on. Guffy and rem were die hard defiant but really wanted the war to end. Somar absolutely refused so we kept at war. Near the end somar left and passed leadership to rem. rem and guff took this opportunity to talk peace. Defiant did try to die a little at the end but all members were still diehard defiant. When the move happened some did join chosen but t was for a merge. Several of us refused to join chosen clan due to our months of hatred of the clan. But we did agree to a compromise and that compromise was a new clan name where we could leave the hatred of opposing clan behind. Thus prime was created. Some tried to stay behind to keep defiant going because it had been such a strong clan forever it seamed. But it didnt happen cause the main hardcore group had merged already.