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Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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As for your second post, you say nothing in relation to what I said. Maybe they are having abortions yes, but they are the ones that put themselves at risk unless they were raped. Like I said, it is your fault if you have a baby that you can not, or don't want to support, unless its rape.

We all know a pretty girl walking in the streets with really short jeans isn't safe. Think ahead, remind yourself of all the warnings you see and do not try to seem like a prey to rapists. Go in groups, take the bus, go with your boy friend, anything that involves another person in sight, and you already have a99% chance of not being raped.
Wow! You are so ignorant with a simple minded view of reality it is truly amazing. You realize your comments are highly offensive to women and highly bigoted right? Or not? Hilarious!

Try this link and read up. http://rwu.edu/campus-life/health-couns ... hs-and-fac

Saying "attractive" "dressed up" women are "asking for it" and saying that you can be 99% safe in groups is extremely stupid. Most rapes ARE by the boyfriend over a stranger lmao. 78% are a familiar person.

The overwhelming majority of rape victims are not intoxicated at the time.

Then again religious people wear ignorance (faith) as a badge of honor and don't mind forcefully pushing the issue despite not standing in any firm ground. Stereotypes broken = 0
Wait, when did I say the ones who were raped in particular were the ones under the influence. I was actually telling you that the majority of the time it isn't rape, from what I understand. I wasn't saying anything about rape, just the fact that it is not the persons fault when they are raped. And isn't it still your fault for trusting and being in a relationship with a person who even thinks about raping you?
it is your quote above
Ok, first of all, if its rape, obviously it isn't that persons fault. However, the majority of the time is is not because of rape, but because you were under the influence.

I need to look up statistics for your country but where I live and in Europe victim intoxication is not a leading factor. Nor is being attractive as you mention later. And no it's not thier fault for trusting someone not to rape you on a few dates. That view is extremely bigoted and would label you a sexist in any first world country.
These opinions were based on where I live nonetheless. Venezuela, where there is in fact lots of rape situations.

Itso-facto, the teachers I was speaking about all worked in an international school, of which the average pay per one student to attend is fifteen thousand dollars. So I think its safe to say they earn more than 30,000 per year when there is 600 students in middle school with about 1/5 the amount of teachers. And since they teach physics, health, chemistry and astronomy, I think they do get payed more than other teachers do, as they teach one of the 4 main classes which are math, science, reading, English.
Yes it's sad in America, even in private schools and universities, teachers make less money than industry. Here we pay our public teachers poverty level wages. Again what people believe around you, or any people in fact, does not change reality. Factual reality is not dispensed from authority like religions.

For the last time, I am not in the right position to be called a Christian. Call me stupid, retarded, whatever you want, I don't care what a stranger has to say about me, especially you, who thinks '***' and 'hope you die' are in the same league. Just don't blame the Christian religion for my stupidity.
Yes I said I hope if you disbelieve in reality it does kill you. And I mean it. It's darwin at work. It's up to you to accept reality and the danger is proportional to your disbelief. Im a world away I'm not doing anything. This is about you having to live in the same reality we all do. You resorted to ad hominem attacks first I simply called unfounded belief that is demonstratably false ignorant and look it up anywhere as that is basically the dictionary definition.
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Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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Wait, when did I say the ones who were raped in particular were the ones under the influence. I was actually telling you that the majority of the time it isn't rape, from what I understand. I wasn't saying anything about rape, just the fact that it is not the persons fault when they are raped. And isn't it still your fault for trusting and being in a relationship with a person who even thinks about raping you?
I am not sure what I am reading here but... If you are defending the position of no abortion on the basis that even rape is due to irresponsibility (abuse of drugs and alcohol), then you would in fact be suggesting that the person "raped" was under the influence for if the one instigating the rape is under the influence, then the subject of the act had no choice which would support the right of a woman to not be the carrier for that foetus that they had no control over.
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Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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Also its not "in a bad state" by serious risk to the mother we mean the mother probs won't come out of it alive due to blood loss, infection, etc. and if the person having the child is under the age of 25 it is impossible for them to realize the long term as their brains are not fully developed yet, also, im not sure about america, but over here in the UK we dont hand out abortions on demand, there is specific criteria, which is things such as risk to the mother, if the child will be born with several disabilities and so on. And another thing, I love how you dont mention the man, it takes two to tango (you know what I mean, im keeping this PG) and finally, its not taking a life, you don't get a cure for cancer and then cry that the cancer has died, its the same deal with foetuses, they aren't alive, they dont have consciousness until about 6/7 months, which (again idk about america) is beyond the cut off point for abortions. Edit: various spelling mistakes
Ok, first of all, if its rape, obviously it isn't that persons fault. However, the majority of the time is is not because of rape, but because you were under the influence.

As for your second post, you say nothing in relation to what I said. Maybe they are having abortions yes, but they are the ones that put themselves at risk unless they were raped. Like I said, it is your fault if you have a baby that you can not, or don't want to support, unless its rape.

We all know a pretty girl walking in the streets with really short jeans isn't safe. Think ahead, remind yourself of all the warnings you see and do not try to seem like a prey to rapists. Go in groups, take the bus, go with your boy friend, anything that involves another person in sight, and you already have a99% chance of not being raped.
You realize how bigoted you sound don't you? Its not about being the "pretty girl" its largely about power, and most rapes are from a familier person, so why should the women have rape on her mind 24/7?

Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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Wait, when did I say the ones who were raped in particular were the ones under the influence. I was actually telling you that the majority of the time it isn't rape, from what I understand. I wasn't saying anything about rape, just the fact that it is not the persons fault when they are raped. And isn't it still your fault for trusting and being in a relationship with a person who even thinks about raping you?

These opinions were based on where I live nonetheless. Venezuela, where there is in fact lots of rape situations.

Itso-facto, the teachers I was speaking about all worked in an international school, of which the average pay per one student to attend is fifteen thousand dollars. So I think its safe to say they earn more than 30,000 per year when there is 600 students in middle school with about 1/5 the amount of teachers. And since they teach physics, health, chemistry and astronomy, I think they do get payed more than other teachers do, as they teach one of the 4 main classes which are math, science, reading, English.

For the last time, I am not in the right position to be called a Christian. Call me stupid, retarded, whatever you want, I don't care what a stranger has to say about me, especially you, who thinks '***' and 'hope you die' are in the same league. Just don't blame the Christian religion for my stupidity.[/quote]

Umm. You say your teacher was payed 15k for each child, so 15x600=750k a year! Im sure your maths teacher is a millionaire. Also way to go back to victim blaming saying its also the womens fault for trusting the man, if you're being stalked by a creepy man thats your fault?you ever been raped ace? No. Didnt think so. Me neither of course but I remain aware of what the situation is now, instead of what the situation was 100 years ago,

Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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Actually tell you what, yeah! Lets oppress all the women, I should be able to force myself on someone and get away with it, thats the american way! Thats when society will become developed! (For anyone who was dropped as a baby, im being sarcastic to prove how stupid of an argument ace has concocted. And im fairly sure victim blaming is a crime in France Germany and Spain, so yeah

Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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Wait, when did I say the ones who were raped in particular were the ones under the influence. I was actually telling you that the majority of the time it isn't rape, from what I understand. I wasn't saying anything about rape, just the fact that it is not the persons fault when they are raped. And isn't it still your fault for trusting and being in a relationship with a person who even thinks about raping you?

These opinions were based on where I live nonetheless. Venezuela, where there is in fact lots of rape situations.

Itso-facto, the teachers I was speaking about all worked in an international school, of which the average pay per one student to attend is fifteen thousand dollars. So I think its safe to say they earn more than 30,000 per year when there is 600 students in middle school with about 1/5 the amount of teachers. And since they teach physics, health, chemistry and astronomy, I think they do get payed more than other teachers do, as they teach one of the 4 main classes which are math, science, reading, English.

For the last time, I am not in the right position to be called a Christian. Call me stupid, retarded, whatever you want, I don't care what a stranger has to say about me, especially you, who thinks '***' and 'hope you die' are in the same league. Just don't blame the Christian religion for my stupidity.
Umm. You say your teacher was payed 15k for each child, so 15x600=750k a year! Im sure your maths teacher is a millionaire. Also way to go back to victim blaming saying its also the womens fault for trusting the man, if you're being stalked by a creepy man thats your fault?you ever been raped ace? No. Didnt think so. Me neither of course but I remain aware of what the situation is now, instead of what the situation was 100 years ago,
Sexism as most of the developed world sees it is more of a widespread problem in venezuela than even america. It's not surprising he's bigoted and ignorant of basic facts.
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Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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Wait, when did I say the ones who were raped in particular were the ones under the influence. I was actually telling you that the majority of the time it isn't rape, from what I understand. I wasn't saying anything about rape, just the fact that it is not the persons fault when they are raped. And isn't it still your fault for trusting and being in a relationship with a person who even thinks about raping you?

These opinions were based on where I live nonetheless. Venezuela, where there is in fact lots of rape situations.

Itso-facto, the teachers I was speaking about all worked in an international school, of which the average pay per one student to attend is fifteen thousand dollars. So I think its safe to say they earn more than 30,000 per year when there is 600 students in middle school with about 1/5 the amount of teachers. And since they teach physics, health, chemistry and astronomy, I think they do get payed more than other teachers do, as they teach one of the 4 main classes which are math, science, reading, English.

For the last time, I am not in the right position to be called a Christian. Call me stupid, retarded, whatever you want, I don't care what a stranger has to say about me, especially you, who thinks '***' and 'hope you die' are in the same league. Just don't blame the Christian religion for my stupidity.
Umm. You say your teacher was payed 15k for each child, so 15x600=750k a year! Im sure your maths teacher is a millionaire. Also way to go back to victim blaming saying its also the womens fault for trusting the man, if you're being stalked by a creepy man thats your fault?you ever been raped ace? No. Didnt think so. Me neither of course but I remain aware of what the situation is now, instead of what the situation was 100 years ago,
Sexism as most of the developed world sees it is more of a widespread problem in venezuela than even america. It's not surprising he's bigoted and ignorant of basic facts.
Ive lived here for 7 months and I hate it. Its as if you people have never heard an opinion outside of your own. You simply cannot accept anything of your own, simply because your position is challenged. You can call me stupid, and unrealistic, but to me you are hopeless, and unable to socialize with other human beings in a kind manner. If you are so perfect why don't you go make clones of yourself and live with them? Try it out, Im sure you will go insane.

Call me bigoted or whatever you want, but in the end I was trying to sound good willed. I want to protect rape victims, my cousin got attacked and stripped naked(then luckily a cop came along), its a sad thing.

Whats with all this America stuff? You are the ones who are American, not I, so why is it you insult your own country? Is that the kind of low self esteem all my friends tell me about?

I said 15k per student to attent the school, not per teacher genius.
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Re: A Discussion About Religion: The [Threequel]

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Umm. You say your teacher was payed 15k for each child, so 15x600=750k a year! Im sure your maths teacher is a millionaire. Also way to go back to victim blaming saying its also the womens fault for trusting the man, if you're being stalked by a creepy man thats your fault?you ever been raped ace? No. Didnt think so. Me neither of course but I remain aware of what the situation is now, instead of what the situation was 100 years ago,
Sexism as most of the developed world sees it is more of a widespread problem in venezuela than even america. It's not surprising he's bigoted and ignorant of basic facts.
Ive lived here for 7 months and I hate it. Its as if you people have never heard an opinion outside of your own. You simply cannot accept anything of your own, simply because your position is challenged. You can call me stupid, and unrealistic, but to me you are hopeless, and unable to socialize with other human beings in a kind manner. If you are so perfect why don't you go make clones of yourself and live with them? Try it out, Im sure you will go insane.

Call me bigoted or whatever you want, but in the end I was trying to sound good willed. I want to protect rape victims, my cousin got attacked and stripped naked(then luckily a cop came along), its a sad thing.

Whats with all this America stuff? You are the ones who are American, not I, so why is it you insult your own country? Is that the kind of low self esteem all my friends tell me about?

I said 15k per student to attent the school, not per teacher genius.
Well it's too bad about your cousin but your attitude is not helping. Pretty women are not asking for it or even at higher risk. It's not strangers you need to worry about its relatives and familiar people. Women who have a few drinks aren't being irresponsible and asking for it. Your comments are full of sexist and ignorant remarks. This is not my opinion. This is the opinion of developed nations as well as facts. Maybe in Iran you would find more sympathetic views.

Go ahead i dare you to challenge me on women's rights because your comments are quite hilarious and anything but PC. Please continue.
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