Celtic Heroes

Also more than 50 persent of america believe the sun orbits the earth, does that make it true, hell no. Feel free to try to debate me on that,

Ok for the guy who posted they say it says in the bible "there is no God" and that is fully true but they arent telling u the context the verse quotes "The fool saith in his heart there is no God." So they are just twisting it to say what they want it to.

In answer to the original question:

It is not about divine code within us or remnants of a god's command. It really just has to do with mass survival. It is true that time changes and perception change but it is society that picks and chooses the customs that help humanity on a grand scale survive.

There is no point in using events in history to show that human logic and reason can be flawed. We already know this. The idea is that we eventually change as the survival of humanity becomes a priority.

Morals are subjective
They are based on personal experience, culture, and instinct

So then would you say morals are relative to each person?

Yes, my morals are differant than your morals. There will always be societal morals as well though, which differ country to country. But to answer your question, no morals do not come from religion. Religion provides (A) set of morals, but does not create nor set which morals are correct

Morals are subjective
They are based on personal experience, culture, and instinct

So then would you say morals are relative to each person?

Yes, my morals are differant than your morals. There will always be societal morals as well though, which differ country to country. But to answer your question, no morals do not come from religion. Religion provides (A) set of morals, but does not create nor set which morals are correct

Thank you for summing up my point

Also more than 50 persent of america believe the sun orbits the earth, does that make it true, hell no. Feel free to try to debate me on that,

That statistic is made up 99% of the human race would make a joke about how statistics are made up, and 1% of the world (me plus others) are hypocrites talking about how other ppl make statistic jokes while i just did one :3

Back on topic:1) like i said, thats a made up stat, 2) religion doesnt mandate the earth is orbitted by the sun(btw if you contradict that statement that means you "wasted your time reading the bible or some other religion, which is ironic because you push atheism so ppl stop "wasting their time". Another ironic thing about that statement is a lot of ppl wasted their time posting over 200 times in the "discussion of religion" topic. Also if you contradict that statement and read fully in depth of religion, then, if you like it or not, it proves you do have some faith in you but you are too cocky to believe in religion because you believe people who are religious are unintelligent.

All the atheists referred to survival creating morals. If the Jewish were causing trouble for Hitler and others who also believed so, doesn't it increase their survival rate? So this would be the right choice for any Nazi, except many of the Nazi soldiers hesitated and were forced to act in these ways.

In fact, my own grandfather was forced to join the Nazi Army's Aerial force, but he actually ran away. Jumped out the airplane with his parachute, landed somewhere in France, and made his way to where he had relatives outside Germany. He left, and disagreed with racism even though he was born and raised amongst men who hated and influenced him to do like they did.


If survival was key, and we lived according to that, why do we have so many economic flaws that makes millions in debt and poor; why are we peaceful and not violent with others that make our lives harder unknowingly? It's because we have been given the right to be good or bad, and its all your choice. The ultimate gift from God is freedom; the choice to be good or bad.

For example, why is it evil if I kill a little kid that is eating my food while I starve? Doesn't it make my survival rate worst?

Please refer to my completely ignored post:


Say that there is a little kid with a bomb inside his stomach, along with a million dollars, on an aeroplane. From what I understand, what is right and wrong in your opinion through learning is the more survival friendly choice. So I would push off the little kid to save my life and the money, instead of trying to take the bomb out or die trying. Is this the correct choice? It does meet your requirements.If people didn't know what was right or wrong, then fighting only for your survival wouldn't be right or wrong, hence the choice for personal survival; which either helps or does not help another person or thing.

All the atheists referred to survival creating morals. If the Jewish were causing trouble for Hitler and others who also believed so, doesn't it increase their survival rate? So this would be the right choice for any Nazi, except many of the Nazi soldiers hesitated and were forced to act in these ways.


If survival was key, and we lived according to that, why do we have so many economic flaws that makes millions in debt and poor; why are we peaceful and not violent with others that make our lives harder unknowingly? It's because we have been given the right to be good or bad, and its all your choice. The ultimate gift from God is freedom; the choice to be good or bad.

For example, why is it evil if I kill a little kid that is eating my food while I starve? Doesn't it make my survival rate worst?

Please refer to my completely ignored post:


Say that there is a little kid with a bomb inside his stomach, along with a million dollars, on an aeroplane. From what I understand, what is right and wrong in your opinion through learning is the more survival friendly choice. So I would push off the little kid to save my life and the money, instead of trying to take the bomb out or die trying. Is this the correct choice? It does meet your requirements.If people didn't know what was right or wrong, then fighting only for your survival wouldn't be right or wrong, hence the choice for personal survival; which either helps or does not help another person or thing.

I have one thing to say.

WHY THE FOCA HELL DO YOU THINK WE JEWISH PEOPLE PISSED OFF HITLER?!?
You know NOTHING then, it was him. He put himself in jail not some jewish person! He then became mental, and started killing people. MOST Nazis did not hesitate.
I don't give a damn what this topic is about, all I know is that you just pissed me off. You can not mention hitler, all he did was wrong. He put Germany now a days as a not-so-good looking country. HE MESSED UP.

All the atheists referred to survival creating morals. If the Jewish were causing trouble for Hitler and others who also believed so, doesn't it increase their survival rate? So this would be the right choice for any Nazi, except many of the Nazi soldiers hesitated and were forced to act in these ways.


If survival was key, and we lived according to that, why do we have so many economic flaws that makes millions in debt and poor; why are we peaceful and not violent with others that make our lives harder unknowingly? It's because we have been given the right to be good or bad, and its all your choice. The ultimate gift from God is freedom; the choice to be good or bad.

For example, why is it evil if I kill a little kid that is eating my food while I starve? Doesn't it make my survival rate worst?

Please refer to my completely ignored post:


Say that there is a little kid with a bomb inside his stomach, along with a million dollars, on an aeroplane. From what I understand, what is right and wrong in your opinion through learning is the more survival friendly choice. So I would push off the little kid to save my life and the money, instead of trying to take the bomb out or die trying. Is this the correct choice? It does meet your requirements.If people didn't know what was right or wrong, then fighting only for your survival wouldn't be right or wrong, hence the choice for personal survival; which either helps or does not help another person or thing.

I have one thing to say.

WHY THE FOCA HELL DO YOU THINK WE JEWISH PEOPLE PISSED OFF HITLER?!?
You know NOTHING then, it was him. He put himself in jail not some jewish person! He then became mental, and started killing people. MOST Nazis did not hesitate.
I don't give a damn what this topic is about, all I know is that you just pissed me off. You can not mention hitler, all he did was wrong. He put Germany now a days as a not-so-good looking country. HE MESSED UP.

Exactly, I'm showing exactly how these atheists are thinking; survival is for the better. Hitler's arguments were hat Jewish people were to successful, which is ridoncolous.

You misinterpreted me, I'm saying how wrong it si tto support these ideas and how what they were saying supports them. Even they think what Hitler did was wrong, yet the facts they present say otherwise.

Hmph.
Well, ok....
But facts or no facts, what he did was wrong. The facts present nothing and mean nothing. The word dictator, who do you think of? Hitler. He was wrong, evil, and..and words that could describe him I'm not allowed to say.
He is one big fat shmuck.