Hitler never hated Jews u idiot, learn history, they were a scapegoatAll the atheists referred to survival creating morals. If the Jewish were causing trouble for Hitler and others who also believed so, doesn't it increase their survival rate? So this would be the right choice for any Nazi, except many of the Nazi soldiers hesitated and were forced to act in these ways.
In fact, my own grandfather was forced to join the Nazi Army's Aerial force, but he actually ran away. Jumped out the airplane with his parachute, landed somewhere in France, and made his way to where he had relatives outside Germany. He left, and disagreed with racism even though he was born and raised amongst men who hated and influenced him to do like they did.
If survival was key, and we lived according to that, why do we have so many economic flaws that makes millions in debt and poor; why are we peaceful and not violent with others that make our lives harder unknowingly? It's because we have been given the right to be good or bad, and its all your choice. The ultimate gift from God is freedom; the choice to be good or bad.
For example, why is it evil if I kill a little kid that is eating my food while I starve? Doesn't it make my survival rate worst?
Please refer to my completely ignored post:
Say that there is a little kid with a bomb inside his stomach, along with a million dollars, on an aeroplane. From what I understand, what is right and wrong in your opinion through learning is the more survival friendly choice. So I would push off the little kid to save my life and the money, instead of trying to take the bomb out or die trying. Is this the correct choice? It does meet your requirements.If people didn't know what was right or wrong, then fighting only for your survival wouldn't be right or wrong, hence the choice for personal survival; which either helps or does not help another person or thing.
Re: Question for Athiests
#62It is useless to try and explain to the religious how morals are created, it really is.I cannot change there views beacuse they are skilled in the way of making up stuff and jumping to conclusions.
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Re: Question for Athiests
#63Indeed.It is useless to try and explain to the religious how morals are created, it really is.I cannot change there views beacuse they are skilled in the way of making up stuff and jumping to conclusions.
Re: Question for Athiests
#64Yay, a Discussion About Religion IV.
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Re: Question for Athiests
#65Crim, it should have ended long ago but some people like to talk trash just to try convience the other person, but in acual fact, they are making themselves look like a fool
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Re: Question for Athiests
#66No, saying that since someone is a religious person so hes stupid, that makes them look like fools.Crim, it should have ended long ago but some people like to talk trash just to try convience the other person, but in acual fact, they are making themselves look like a fool
One thing noone in those thread gets, a comment in Celtic Heroes forums wont make any of us change our religious.
Explained it last time, and an atheist rathered attack me while still saying hes a better person than any religious person, i dont think that makes him any better tho.
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Re: Question for Athiests
#67Atheists: Someone who does not believe in any god.
I do respect other peoples views and opinions, but i will not hesitate to stick up for atheists when religious ppl start asking questions to try prove atheists wrong. I do not try to inforce my belief like God would. I will not chuck anyone into a Lake of Fire or condemn anyone to eternal torture and torment when they die if they dont beleive my ways, like god would.
I do respect other peoples views and opinions, but i will not hesitate to stick up for atheists when religious ppl start asking questions to try prove atheists wrong. I do not try to inforce my belief like God would. I will not chuck anyone into a Lake of Fire or condemn anyone to eternal torture and torment when they die if they dont beleive my ways, like god would.
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Re: Question for Athiests
#68I have many things to say, and many points of views, would they change much? i can show u, that it doesnt matter what do u believe in, like any other human being u have to believe in something in order to survive, i dont mind in whatever do u believe in, if its God, or if u believe in that smiley : 
, whatever u believe in is fine by me.
The only problem i have with atheists, is not their view, it only bothers me how they can decide whos smarter, and whos a better person, and it doesnt even matter if they judge u for ur religion, noone put me or any religious/atheist person to decide, living in the lie as if ur better than someone else (not u, generally), will eventually hurt u and u only.
I might be jewish, but it doesnt mean im not as smart as others, it doesnt mean that atheists are better ppl than me, just because i believe in God.
, whatever u believe in is fine by me.The only problem i have with atheists, is not their view, it only bothers me how they can decide whos smarter, and whos a better person, and it doesnt even matter if they judge u for ur religion, noone put me or any religious/atheist person to decide, living in the lie as if ur better than someone else (not u, generally), will eventually hurt u and u only.
I might be jewish, but it doesnt mean im not as smart as others, it doesnt mean that atheists are better ppl than me, just because i believe in God.
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Re: Question for Athiests
#69You need to read your history books again, hitler choose the Jews as scapegoats because of personal issues with Jews, one of the personal reasons was that his mother unintentionally died in the hands of a Jewish doctor, and his dream of becoming a painter was tarnished when a Jewish art teacher did not accept him.Hitler never hated Jews u idiot, learn history, they were a scapegoat
Yes, they were scapegoats, made because of his hatred.
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Re: Question for Athiests
#70Atheists statistically tend to believe things only for which there is evidence. Thus the non belief in gods.
Religious people need faith (ignorance) as there is no evidence for gods.
Therfore atheists tend to be more intellectually honest. Religious people compartmentalize thier thinking about the world as thier beliefs are irreconcilable with reality.
Atheists tend to be smarter because - to put it in mmo terms - religious indoctrination from birth is like getting hit with a giant aoe at level 1 right after you spawn. People born with a higher int stat get a better resist. Most people fail immedieatly and never shake it off.
Most religious people, after reaching young adulthood, realize deep down most of thier religion is nonsense. They try not to think about it and become agitated if it is brought up as uprooting thier whole life and removing religion would cause too many problems with thier families and peers not to mention mental suffering.
Besides the fact that here in the USA prison capital of the world - there are literally no atheists in prison (10x less than the average population) whereas Christians are slightly over represented and Muslims 5x over represented being religious or athiest does not in fact make you a better person.
I like to say some people are good in spite of religion.
If you say you are behaving only because you believe an all powerful deity is watching your every move and will torture you forever if you make a wrong move you are anythng but a moral person. Moral people do good and don't take advantage or hurt others even if there are no concequences.
Religious people need faith (ignorance) as there is no evidence for gods.
Therfore atheists tend to be more intellectually honest. Religious people compartmentalize thier thinking about the world as thier beliefs are irreconcilable with reality.
Atheists tend to be smarter because - to put it in mmo terms - religious indoctrination from birth is like getting hit with a giant aoe at level 1 right after you spawn. People born with a higher int stat get a better resist. Most people fail immedieatly and never shake it off.
Most religious people, after reaching young adulthood, realize deep down most of thier religion is nonsense. They try not to think about it and become agitated if it is brought up as uprooting thier whole life and removing religion would cause too many problems with thier families and peers not to mention mental suffering.
Besides the fact that here in the USA prison capital of the world - there are literally no atheists in prison (10x less than the average population) whereas Christians are slightly over represented and Muslims 5x over represented being religious or athiest does not in fact make you a better person.
I like to say some people are good in spite of religion.
If you say you are behaving only because you believe an all powerful deity is watching your every move and will torture you forever if you make a wrong move you are anythng but a moral person. Moral people do good and don't take advantage or hurt others even if there are no concequences.
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220+ toons
Ravenleaf druid - Silverstring ranger
Stormsong warrior - Nwerb Mage - Eventide Rogue
Toon histogram:
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220+ toons
Ravenleaf druid - Silverstring ranger
Stormsong warrior - Nwerb Mage - Eventide Rogue
Toon histogram:
Level_____|200+|150-199|100-149|50-99|20-49|1-19|
# of toons|_5__|___16___|____3___|__11__|__21_|407|