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Re: DPS guide

#21
Almost all of the rogue skills, aside from Shadowstrike, all draw from strength. Shouldn't there be less in dexterity than strength?
For a rogue str bonus to dmg levels off at 300 you shouldn't have more then 400, so after you have a good amount of hp the rest of your points should be in dex
Yes the bonus to auto damage sort of slows, it still adds a significant bonus not to mention how much str adda to your str based skills. I'm a bit tired of people spewing crap like this '300 str max' crap, I have WAY more than that and I whoop EVERY dex rogue on my world. I've yet to see a 'tank' or dex rogue out dps me on anything.

I mean keep stacking on dex guys, it only makes me look better than I already am.
No one ever said that for a DPS build, im telling that to every non DPS build and i have over 800 str, str imo is the best dps stat, but for soloing, mostly as a rogue, if u dont want to spend too much dex is prob the best way to go.
Str rogues do beat dex rogues most of time.
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Re: DPS guide

#22
Almost all of the rogue skills, aside from Shadowstrike, all draw from strength. Shouldn't there be less in dexterity than strength?
For a rogue str bonus to dmg levels off at 300 you shouldn't have more then 400, so after you have a good amount of hp the rest of your points should be in dex
Yes the bonus to auto damage sort of slows, it still adds a significant bonus not to mention how much str adda to your str based skills. I'm a bit tired of people spewing crap like this '300 str max' crap, I have WAY more than that and I whoop EVERY dex rogue on my world. I've yet to see a 'tank' or dex rogue out dps me on anything.

I mean keep stacking on dex guys, it only makes me look better than I already am.

This.
Our server has a whole clan full of dex rogues. Its ridiculous, a str rogue pops out of no where and whoops all their asses in dps and they start crying about how he has more dex than them... I guess some people dont understand..
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Re: DPS guide

#23
Theres an answer to this:
Dex is better for soloing, because if the defence/ attack boost, aswell gas granting bonuses to 3 out of 5 soloing skills (shadow, lifesteal, and reflexes) while streangth only gives bonuses to two (quickstrike and riopste.

Although, a streanth rogue is better for dps because of the damage boost, and giving grants to more skills. (If you do not solo anymore, chances are you're gonna dump reflexes and lifesteal faster than a girl who ypu found out was cheating on you, replacing them with str skills (assasinate, double(?), sneaky etc. Giving bonuses to 4 str skills, only neglacting shadowstrike)

Hope this helped :)
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Re: DPS guide

#24
Theres an answer to this:
Dex is better for soloing, because if the defence/ attack boost, aswell gas granting bonuses to 3 out of 5 soloing skills (shadow, lifesteal, and reflexes) while streangth only gives bonuses to two (quickstrike and riopste.

Although, a streanth rogue is better for dps because of the damage boost, and giving grants to more skills. (If you do not solo anymore, chances are you're gonna dump reflexes and lifesteal faster than a girl who ypu found out was cheating on you, replacing them with str skills (assasinate, double(?), sneaky etc. Giving bonuses to 4 str skills, only neglacting shadowstrike)

Hope this helped :)
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Re: DPS guide

#26
ROGUES ARE NOT NORMAL CLASSES. THAT IS RULE 1. ROGUES ARE EXTREMELY FINA INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE NESSISARY TO ALL BOSS FIGHTS. IF YOU ARE NOT DOING IT CORRECTLY, NO MATYER HOW GOOD THE STRATAGY, THR BOSS ISN'T DIEING.

The 3 Laws of Bieng a Rouge

1.Rogues are squishy and should be treated as such, a DPS rouge woun't be able to hold off a boss for long, a tank that WONT LOOSE AGRO is essential for the DPS rouge.

2.Rouges suck agro and should be protected by the tank at all times. A dead rogue isnt doing dps.

3.The rouge is an instrument and should be finely tuned. A dead rouge isn't doing dps, a rouge without energy isn't doing dps, a rouge that has too much health isn't doing dps, a rouge with too much energy isn't doing dps. Finding the balance between damage and suevivability is crucial.

Skill and stat setup

Rouges have a choice
of the stat they invest in, Streangth or Dexterity. This desucion is crucial and unique to the rouge who uses it, but here is a sugested setup: Most in dexterity, some in streangth, barely enough in vitality, and usimg mostly gear that adds streangth, with some that adds dex, and barely enough that adds direct damage.

Best dps armour and weapons for each level.
Jewelry should only cobtain enery regenaration items and dex/ str + items.This is more like a primer than a guide, it shows you the gear that will give you maximum DPS output.


1-19: Greater midsummer armour is ypur friend, so is the ancient langsax and the golden bodkin of spirits.

20-39: Here, lesser solcetice would be your bff, ancient langsax and bodkin of spirits are still to be used.

40-59:At these levels, you should use the greater solstice armour, (50+) the Golden trident of ice and your langsax.

60-79:now, it begins getting expensive. Full lesser Earthstone armour eould be the beat compliment to your DPS, still using the trident but swapping the langsax for a Quartz dagger.

80-99: you can niw upgrade to Greater Earthstone. Using a trident and a diamond dagger.

100-119:*final earthstone upgrade* You can bow access the radiant earthstone. And the level 100 luxury vendor, best for this level would be the dagger of slaying, still using your diamond dagger.

120-139:Here, full radiant earthstone would still be the best, and a dagger of slaying would still be the best, though ademant vendor has a new dagger for you...

140-159:You can sell that onld earthstone set, Beastbone has a new Ancient series (and ficha has some Dragonlord gloves and boots for you) but dont get too exited, all that gold ypu just made off the es set? Kiss it goodbye! New wyrmbone dagger and Axe of conquest are out!

160-179:Complete that dragonlord set of armour and throw a dragonlord dagger in there, still using the axe.

180-200: Dragonlord armour should still be the best unless you have a mordris helm, tboae are good too... A dragonlord dagger shpuld still be good unless you have a mordris spear, those are good (or a necromancer dagger*)
Thpugh maybe the axe is still good?.. NOPE!(on normal mobs it is though) ypu can get a new Dragonlord rondel!

Now that ypur tired and bankrupt, no boss should be able to stand in your clans way of victory!

SPECIAL THANKS TO:
KiyKiy (Gear too expensive, updated to primer)

Criminal (Gear too expensive, updated to primer)

Pigman (Notifying me to errors with 150-169 - awaiting feedback)
Instrument* Rogue* Necessary* Matter* Wouldn't* Being* Lose* Aggro* Survivability* Strength* Decision* Suggested* Using* Regeneration* Your* Would* Solstice* Old* Adamant* Those* Though*
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Re: DPS guide

#28
ROGUES ARE NOT NORMAL CLASSES. THAT IS RULE 1. ROGUES ARE EXTREMELY FINA INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE NESSISARY TO ALL BOSS FIGHTS. IF YOU ARE NOT DOING IT CORRECTLY, NO MATYER HOW GOOD THE STRATAGY, THR BOSS ISN'T DIEING.

The 3 Laws of Bieng a Rouge

1.Rogues are squishy and should be treated as such, a DPS rouge woun't be able to hold off a boss for long, a tank that WONT LOOSE AGRO is essential for the DPS rouge.

2.Rouges suck agro and should be protected by the tank at all times. A dead rogue isnt doing dps.

3.The rouge is an instrument and should be finely tuned. A dead rouge isn't doing dps, a rouge without energy isn't doing dps, a rouge that has too much health isn't doing dps, a rouge with too much energy isn't doing dps. Finding the balance between damage and suevivability is crucial.

Skill and stat setup

Rouges have a choice
of the stat they invest in, Streangth or Dexterity. This desucion is crucial and unique to the rouge who uses it, but here is a sugested setup: Most in dexterity, some in streangth, barely enough in vitality, and usimg mostly gear that adds streangth, with some that adds dex, and barely enough that adds direct damage.

Best dps armour and weapons for each level.
Jewelry should only cobtain enery regenaration items and dex/ str + items.This is more like a primer than a guide, it shows you the gear that will give you maximum DPS output.


1-19: Greater midsummer armour is ypur friend, so is the ancient langsax and the golden bodkin of spirits.

20-39: Here, lesser solcetice would be your bff, ancient langsax and bodkin of spirits are still to be used.

40-59:At these levels, you should use the greater solstice armour, (50+) the Golden trident of ice and your langsax.

60-79:now, it begins getting expensive. Full lesser Earthstone armour eould be the beat compliment to your DPS, still using the trident but swapping the langsax for a Quartz dagger.

80-99: you can niw upgrade to Greater Earthstone. Using a trident and a diamond dagger.

100-119:*final earthstone upgrade* You can bow access the radiant earthstone. And the level 100 luxury vendor, best for this level would be the dagger of slaying, still using your diamond dagger.

120-139:Here, full radiant earthstone would still be the best, and a dagger of slaying would still be the best, though ademant vendor has a new dagger for you...

140-159:You can sell that onld earthstone set, Beastbone has a new Ancient series (and ficha has some Dragonlord gloves and boots for you) but dont get too exited, all that gold ypu just made off the es set? Kiss it goodbye! New wyrmbone dagger and Axe of conquest are out!

160-179:Complete that dragonlord set of armour and throw a dragonlord dagger in there, still using the axe.

180-200: Dragonlord armour should still be the best unless you have a mordris helm, tboae are good too... A dragonlord dagger shpuld still be good unless you have a mordris spear, those are good (or a necromancer dagger*)
Thpugh maybe the axe is still good?.. NOPE!(on normal mobs it is though) ypu can get a new Dragonlord rondel!

Now that ypur tired and bankrupt, no boss should be able to stand in your clans way of victory!

SPECIAL THANKS TO:
KiyKiy (Gear too expensive, updated to primer)

Criminal (Gear too expensive, updated to primer)

Pigman (Notifying me to errors with 150-169 - awaiting feedback)
Instrument* Rogue* Necessary* Matter* Wouldn't* Being* Lose* Aggro* Survivability* Strength* Decision* Suggested* Using* Regeneration* Your* Would* Solstice* Old* Adamant* Those* Though*
Im sorry but i had too... the words called to me
To*
Let's not turn this into a spell check thread, okay? Sure, he makes spelling errors, but he gets his point across. Give him a break; he has already mentioned several times that he is typing everything on a small phone.
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Level 172 Rogue
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Re: DPS guide

#29
Theres an answer to this:
Dex is better for soloing, because if the defence/ attack boost, aswell gas granting bonuses to 3 out of 5 soloing skills (shadow, lifesteal, and reflexes) while streangth only gives bonuses to two (quickstrike and riopste.

Although, a streanth rogue is better for dps because of the damage boost, and giving grants to more skills. (If you do not solo anymore, chances are you're gonna dump reflexes and lifesteal faster than a girl who ypu found out was cheating on you, replacing them with str skills (assasinate, double(?), sneaky etc. Giving bonuses to 4 str skills, only neglacting shadowstrike)

Hope this helped :)
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Re: DPS guide

#30
Almost all of the rogue skills, aside from Shadowstrike, all draw from strength. Shouldn't there be less in dexterity than strength?
For a rogue str bonus to dmg levels off at 300 you shouldn't have more then 400, so after you have a good amount of hp the rest of your points should be in dex
Yes the bonus to auto damage sort of slows, it still adds a significant bonus not to mention how much str adda to your str based skills. I'm a bit tired of people spewing crap like this '300 str max' crap, I have WAY more than that and I whoop EVERY dex rogue on my world. I've yet to see a 'tank' or dex rogue out dps me on anything.

I mean keep stacking on dex guys, it only makes me look better than I already am.
http://celtic-heroes.com/forum/viewtopi ... 51&t=55981

A guide i wrote for dex based nuke damage rogues. I can outdps many strength rogues on many occasions
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