Celtic Heroes

I want to make a good hybrid but I'm not really sure on which skills to use. I want to use shatter, double attack, and protective stance. I don't know if i should use Pummel or giant swing. I'm only lvl 78 but i have many elixers and plan to change that quickly. I will also be grateful for any stat help. I have 75 str from equipment and rest of stats are unaffected.

Get an axe, use rupture, put all extras in defensive formation.

At higher lvl, u will be able to afford full or more dps, and u will have strong pummel, prob stronger than swing.

I'm currently lvl 86. The main thing i wanna know is wether to use giant swing or pummel.

I m a lower lv than u, but if u wanna listen to my personal advice i m happy to share.
If u r a rich man n hav access to alot of pummel boost gear or hav a slow weapon(like att speed>3500)pleaz use pummel to combo better with shatter.

If u r not rich n wanna spare space for possibly other gear like rupture n shatter rings n hav a faster weapon(like att speed<3500), pleaz, dont mind pummel-obessed ppl, use giant swing. U can combo shatter rupture g swing double att within the time limit.

PS. Idk if this s true but some ppl say pummel sucks upon usage on boss, some say g.swing has too high energy cost.
I use g.swing n i think since g.swing hits harder than double att n double att hits harder than pummel, g.swing s better. I know pummel s fast but for chris sake its not shadowstrike or quickstike, not worth gettin all worked up for.

Please decide carefully.

I m a lower lv than u, but if u wanna listen to my personal advice i m happy to share.
If u r a rich man n hav access to alot of pummel boost gear or hav a slow weapon(like att speed>3500)pleaz use pummel to combo better with shatter.

If u r not rich n wanna spare space for possibly other gear like rupture n shatter rings n hav a faster weapon(like att speed<3500), pleaz, dont mind pummel-obessed ppl, use giant swing. U can combo shatter rupture g swing double att within the time limit.

PS. Idk if this s true but some ppl say pummel sucks upon usage on boss, some say g.swing has too high energy cost.
I use g.swing n i think since g.swing hits harder than double att n double att hits harder than pummel, g.swing s better. I know pummel s fast but for chris sake its not shadowstrike or quickstike, not worth gettin all worked up for.

Please decide carefully.

Lvl 50 giant swing - not very often hitting 3k+ even on training dummies (although it did hit few 3.6k's or even more, but not only less often, its also much slower casting)
Lvl 50 pummel - just logged in to show my friend, hit 3790, left.

Pummel is fast dmg for lvling, sometimes it can hit very well on bosses (although either way, warriors suck for the long runs), it hits very close to max pretty often (lots of 3k's and 3.5k's on my lvl wyrms shattered, some 2.4k's unshattered), the energy cost is low comparing to other skills (lvl 50 less than 140), and the casting is much faster.

if i hit 3.5k with pummel, and 4k with swing, pummel is better DPS, i can almost hit 3 melees (if on haste, swing is faster, and so as melees) during one swing, which covers for half+ of it's dmg, i can barely hit a single melee before casting pummel, and pummel's cooldown is faster (swing's is 20 and so as shatter's, but u cast shatter first, so shatter will be over faster, swing a bit after, at some point swing will not come out of cooldown with shatter, although thats not a big factor and doesnt happen everytime)
DPS wise, even on bosses, pummel is stronger, on bosses u wont be the only one to shatter, im sure u have enough warriors for mordy, shatter will be casted most of time, every 8 secs u can use 1 pummel (although ive tested it, shatter lasts for 8 secs on mobs, so u cant get in 2 pummels, only on ppl at the arena, only ppl not glads, it lasts for 10 and u can use 2 pummels at one shatter)


Overall, if u can get the gear, pummel is amazing.

I m a lower lv than u guys so idk how giant swing does in higher lv. However in my experiences as a warrior, giant swing s better as it also take ur weapon damage into calculation. Since i m an axe warrior i also use rupture, n i can at least tell u this, in the many times i cast these skills, g.swing often hits better than rupture's initial hit. Furthermore, there r many kind of dam bracelets, rupture n shatter rings out there which r much more worthy(in my opinion) to get instead of pummel ring. Compared to pummel u dont need extra gear for g.swing, just cast it as it s it savs u money. And sure, g.swing fluctuates a bit but it often does pretty high dam.

However I m not sure at all about which of pummel n g.swing allows u to dps more in the 10 sec duration shatter givs u. Can u pleaz shed some light on this, criminal? If it matters, I m usin dam 62 att speed 3189 flint cleaver n a dam35 brand, pleaz reply. Also there's a 300 str cap for warriors, if pummel scales on str, i suppose it will weaken once u hit 300, m i right?

Shatter lasts for 8 secs out of the actual 10 on mobs, so u can only get in 1 pummel (on ppl at the arena 2 pummels, pummel's cooldown is 8 secs), but, when pummel's casting time is only like 1 sec, it saves a lot of time for melee hits too, extra dps.

Str's 'cap' is at 300, yet i'll tell u whats the difference.

Each skill point adds much more dmg to pummel.
Each dmg point adds 1 swing dmg.
Each melee combat point adds much more dmg to pummel.
Each str point adds much more dmg to pummel.


If for example, without my axe i have 650 str (a bit more actually), i still get 300+ pummel dmg with my axe (150 str), so its a bit more than 2 pummel dmg per 1 str, but giant swing? adds less.
Frenzy does add dmg to swing, which is good, but if 150 frenzy dmg, then 150 swing dmg.
Added a skill point to swing, how much dmg was added? 14. Pummel, forgot how much, but much more, and at 50 it means a lot more.
Melee combat gives me a great boost to pummel (axes less for swing).


Since pummel isnt dmg based, it gets boosted by other factors much more, str, melee combat, skill pts, to cover for the lost dmg, and along with the speed and very close to max hits, its much better IMO, and yes my rupture is up to almost same dmg as pummel's, yet my pummel can do 1.3k more dmg then rupture.

I have taken few screenshots if u want, i can upload them to show u 3.5k + hits on lvl 180+ wyrms (not 189, im 181, the lvl difference lowers my dmg)
Pummel does the most DPS and dmg for me, on bosses double is better, same for pvp, since melee isnt nerfed on pvp, and double is double melee, i can hit lots of 2k+ double hits on pvp, which is very fun, its a nuking skill.

I will always suggest double before pummel, its double fast dmg, low energy cast, grants u lots of extra skill pts, unavoidable.

Hey can someone post a strength for every 20 lvls after 100(100,120,140,etc)? And also if a warriors strength cap is 350, is that before or after equipment bonuses?

A strength cap i meant.

Again, theres no actual 'cap', its just that, in the way str is made (it's formula), afte 300-350 the dmg u get will be lowered, i constantly get 2 dmg per 5 str, but i get eithet 1-2 dmg from frenzy's bonus per 5 str. Thats with an anc wyrmbone handaxe (129 slash dmg)