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Re: Open mindedness

#21
Ara im just an lazy typer haha when i was writing that i was texting my gf aswell so yeah haha
No worries, just some minor spelling mistake.
I guess a gorilla has hounded and trying to insult you.
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Re: Open mindedness

#24
A lot of people are making posts or statements that don't reflect what they're asking of others.

I'll speak specifically as to ensure I do not make an 'ignorant generalization' as you said Aralus.

There's been a misuse of words, so I'll try to clear up some definitions as well.

As defined by the merriam-webster online dictionary, the definition of generalization, link provided (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/generalization):

Generalization (noun) [gen·er·al·i·za·tion] -
: a general statement : a statement about a group of people or things that is based on only a few people or things in that group
: the act or process of forming opinions that are based on a small amount of information

Now let's define ignorant: (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant)

Ignorant (adjective) [ig·no·rant] -
: lacking knowledge or information
: resulting from or showing a lack of knowledge

Now look at the original post, I'll be sure to quote the whole thing so you don't claim I'm taking your words out of context, I'll highlight the statements of yours I'm critiquing in red, and my response will be the blue font:
If you are too scared to speak out in a game how will you ever speak out in life? Like in society, there are people who want to possess us. I refuse to be 'owned'.
Therefore why not be open minded. This game is for entertainment purpose only, I have other things to do, so have not much time usually. What makes the fun distasteful is that its quite concern to shame others if their opinion does not satisfy you. Not to be angered by Someone with different views.

If that means being a 'foreigner' Seen as majority here are American players(some, not all. I have no proof) who take this game seriously, I would rather that than ass lick round people who are non respectful in a clever way, and some of whom are downright cheats.
(Let's repeat the definition of generalization in case anyone missed it - a statement about a group of people or things that is based on only a few people or things in that group. Your words are your words, there's no denying them. You say a 'majority here are American players', then you say 'some, not all' (you're already contradicting yourself), then you admit you 'have no proof'. Your statement is the very definition of a generalization, merriam webster can probably use your statement as an example of a generalization. On top of that, the fact you make the statement while admitting you have no proof makes it ignorant (lacking knowledge or information). So you made a generalization, and it was ignorant, so you yourself made, an ignorant generalization.

In real world we move on. So rather than always relying on the past, for those who call a certain clan lets scammers in that is a ignorant generalization.
It's the normal way to deal with issues. Move on. That's the dutch way.
You say 'in the real world we move on', Morrigan itself seemed to have moved on as there's been no topics in the past week discussing generalizing people until this thread. If you truly moved on and want others to do the same, then I ask you, why rehash an old topic? As for people making ignorant generalizations, please see above.

Please reply with manner if you disagree with the following statements. I might be incorrect. Please don't attempt bashing or insults. That's not the way to have a discussion.
This is my reply, with manner as requested, as I indeed disagree with your statements.
My reply was done with no bashing or insults, no name-calling or slang, I specifically critiqued what it is you said that I disagree with.

I'd welcome a rebuttal in similar fashion if you have one or to answer my question of how rehashing an old (already discussed) topic matches up with your point of moving on in the real world?
The one and oNi. Your favorite mage's favorite mage.

Re: Open mindedness

#26
Elim nothing against you but you say your country better then Aralus is dutch so am i so the nationalty doesnt care if you speak about it.

Example
Eliminator says dutch ppl are dumb they are stinky bah and many more

And we way 'dutch ppl are the tallest ppl in the world, they the happyest ppl in the world'

But as soon as aralus write a topci about america or so noo then everybody get mad because he means ALL AMERICAN ARE BAD, no we dont say.

So just defend your country, ofc you can be proud about it but it doesnt say other ppl can say something about it everybody got his own oppion is choose aralus side because im dutch to.

Just grown up and let the man speak his word
I'm not sure if it's a lack of understanding on my part (your words) or on your part(my words) but at no time did I say any country was better than another, I didn't even imply it in any way lol

I have no reason to defend my country and I have nothing against the Dutch or any other nation.

Basically this post was a shot at American players.

Furthermore I'm not sure I ever responded to a post by Ara before yet he uses terms like "every time"
Every time you reply you say, someone is creating drama. However the person who states that are creating it him/herself.
I think I've mentioned people not to insult others. I dont get where you got that thought of me getting obsessed with nationalities. Your discussion doesn't make sense.
If you cant make a peaceful discussion, then dont reply
I have over 4400 posts, maybe 4-5 say stop being a drama queen or something of the like.
Think it that way.
The fact that your calling me having a shot at players because of nationality is quite racist yourself.
I dont think you understand the meaning of peaceful discussion and open mindedness. In that sense perhaps We dutch are a bit more capable of understanding others, and open minded.
Perhaps gamers like you don't have much social experience. Not mean to insult you. It's your lifestyle, I don't disrespect that.
I can see partly your comment erased by mod. If you continue trying to find holes in my comments and trying to insult please dont comment. I think your dramatizing too much.

Welcome to real world.
Let's define racist since I don't agree with how you're using it neither: https://www.google.com/search?q=define+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

rac·ist
ˈrāsist - noun: racist; plural noun: racists; adjective: racist
1.
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist
(racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted

2.
having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
"we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"


Now let's revisit your response to Eliminater.
Think it that way.
The fact that your calling me having a shot at players because of nationality is quite racist yourself.
I dont think you understand the meaning of peaceful discussion and open mindedness. In that sense perhaps We dutch are a bit more capable of understanding others, and open minded.
Perhaps gamers like you don't have much social experience. Not mean to insult you. It's your lifestyle, I don't disrespect that.
I can see partly your comment erased by mod. If you continue trying to find holes in my comments and trying to insult please dont comment. I think your dramatizing too much.

Welcome to real world.
Please explain, "The fact that your calling me having a shot at players because of nationality is quite racist yourself. "

He's pointing out the fact you're comparing Americans and foreigners as you've done in your previous posts. How is his statement racist?

Now what you said, "In that sense perhaps We dutch are a bit more capable of understanding others, and open minded." I don't think you realize, but you're implying that the Dutch 'a bit more capable of understanding others', you're saying in some sense, perhaps the Dutch are superior to others, that's the definition of racist. Please tell me how it's not?

I really don't think you understand what you're saying as you keep making false statements about others that you yourself are indeed guilty of.

Pointing out someone made a racist statement, is not racist. Inferring your nationality is superior in some aspect to other nationalities (as you keep doing), is indeed racist.
The one and oNi. Your favorite mage's favorite mage.

Re: Open mindedness

#27
Makes too much sense. He will probably just call you a senile old man as rebuttal :lol: :lol:
It wouldn't surprise me. When someone resorts to such a tactic instead of offering a proper rebuttal it essentially shows they have nothing to back their argument so they turn to the flamewar/name calling to distract people of that fact.
The one and oNi. Your favorite mage's favorite mage.

Re: Open mindedness

#29
Oni. I have no idea if your male, female, dutch, americain, Indonesian, or earthly. But whomever makes babies with you is a lucky person. Just saying, you witty person you. I like your style. ! All this thread had really done is make me sure that im going to learn a 3rd language, and it won't be dutch.
Ulani -Ranger
Igraine - Druid
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Re: Open mindedness

#30
Oni, I dont think you can do a proper debate but to try to find holes in others statement, such like eliminater.
You and aileron are trying to provoke to having a flaming war, however that wont work for you.

It's funny to see whenever I use something little about my country or wherever your from, this turns into some whole load of hypocritical insults and shaming, without the intention of me doing it.

Your posts show you cant make a peaceful discussion, just to villainize others and to bash.

Look at the title, open mindedness. I guess you gamers can carry on dominating this forum like that. This is a waste of time now, :D

P.s. Peace from holland. Dont spend too much on PC.

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