Celtic Heroes

Round 1-Skills!

Rogues win this round hands down, quite easily due to the availability of hard hitting insta cast skills. Insta cast skills such as shadowstrike, quick strike vs sharpshot... CLEAR WINNER!

Round 2-Armour!

Judging solely from endgame armour, I would say that this is a tie. Both rogue and ranger dragonlord armour have the same heat damage, although rogues only have sneaky attack, quick strike for dps skills on their armour, as for rangers, they have only sharp shot ( a joke of a skill )

Round 3-Arsenal

Now this is a bit of a debatable round but i think rogues easily win this one.
Dragon lord dagger and dragon lord bow are equal. Dagger- faster/less dmg vs Bow- slower/more dmg.

As to raid weapons, both rogues and rangers have access to a mord spear. (I will take necro out of the equation as only 3 worlds have killed) Rogues can use all of their skills except sneaky attack while using a spear.
Rangers on the other hand are restricted to just skewer and double attack...

Result: Rogues take this 2-0

Rogues are clearly the superior class in game and probably the most used, but tell me this, what was the point of making rangers if only rogues were to get the kill on everything barring necro. (Mind you, rogues have skill disadvantages with necro and the nature of the battle excludes them from kill most of the time)

It is obvious rogues are meant to be a DPS class, but what are rangers? Both classes have equivalent armour values but why arent the ranger skills somewhat dps?

The truth is rangers are neglected for some reason and have not been in the limelight due to this reason, we are that class that nobody likes to play as we burn more elixers than rogue. Why would you want to play a dex ranger in endgame if there are only 2 semi-decent skills?

In my opinion rangers need to be a somewhat equivalent class to rogues but ranged. We need STR based skills already!

Discuss.

Rangers - Attack from a distance
Rogues - Attack at melee range

2-1

I know this topic will not be digested well by the community as most are rogues and quite happy with that, as they do not want competition from rangers. I'm asking you to judge neutrally, and say what is best for the game .

I suspect there will be more bosses in the future where ranged attacks are better suited. Dont judge rangers because we only have 1 boss at the moment where rangers are arguably better than rogues.

I know this topic will not be digested well by the community as most are rogues and quite happy with that, as they do not want competition from rangers. I'm asking you to judge neutrally, and say what is best for the game .

rangers are not a solely dps class though. they are a jack of all trades class and rogues are a straight dps class. you are comparing apples and oranges

I know this topic will not be digested well by the community as most are rogues and quite happy with that, as they do not want competition from rangers. I'm asking you to judge neutrally, and say what is best for the game .

rangers are not a solely dps class though. they are a jack of all trades class and rogues are a straight dps class. you are comparing apples and oranges

An MMO should not limit a player to just one skill tree.

Druids are healers but can be a heck of a dps because of their DOT skills.

Rangers have a healing skill in light heal, which is pretty useless during raid bosses due to the distance of casting. Entangle needs to be fixed as it has a botched recast timer. Defensive spike needs a boost in its damage.

Only jack of all trades skill i see is sharpen weapons. Rangers must be the jack of all broken trades if you ask them yourselves.

Could quite agree with that, except for the skills.
Rogues have only damage orientated skills, while rangers have support skills. Id take bolas over any sort of rogue skill that I have.

Could quite agree with that, except for the skills.
Rogues have only damage orientated skills, while rangers have support skills. Id take bolas over any sort of rogue skill that I have.

The thing is, bolas can be evaded as well, and you cant slow an enemy down to death :|

Rangers - Attack from a distance
Rogues - Attack at melee range

2-1

Poor argument, especially when you consider that all mobs run at 100% speed. Mages have the weakest armor so should be dealing the most damage. Ranged combat only helps on raid bosses.

Could quite agree with that, except for the skills.
Rogues have only damage orientated skills, while rangers have support skills. Id take bolas over any sort of rogue skill that I have.

Reflex and life steal combo is better, can you bolas mobs in crowded training rooms? If you want to die then its a good idea. Resto pots nullifies any advantage light heal gives to rangers anyway.