Celtic Heroes

I agree with Zombie, there are still reasons to kill dl bosses for those with full. To help their friends.

I'm still helping people with meteoric and frozen at 153, do you think I need it? No, well obviously some frozen pieces but you know what I mean. I would enjoy to see those players become something better.

I was baffled when they did this with OW lion\bear. I'm still baffled by it.

Are you seriously saying only one clan was 'hoarding' drops? I can tell you right now every single clan with the ability to kill dl bosses is 'hoarding' whether it's through a bank or individual's bags.

As for the crowns, maybe hoarding wasn't the right word, maybe I should have just said holding for eternity in hopes of getting 3 more crowns any time soon while others only need the one you have on you. Thanks for loaning it out to whoever you loaned it to btw.

I'm not being greedy, I just don't have much motivation to kill these bosses. I rarely even get back enough to cover spent resources. I know it definitely feels good when I give out the egg or urn I may win but it's just not enough to keep me coming back over and over just to help out. When people call me to OW bosses I almost always come because I know on every single boss there's something I can use, give away, or sell. Anyways this is just my opinion and the way I feel about it, I like helping but really as I said I lose motivation when drops are so crappy for my position as a rogue and I don't even get re-imbursed with most of the supplies I spend. I know there are people out there like Callator who are more than willing to help almost all the time and so will I, the possible difference between us is that I'd just like to have a greater purpose or value added to it for myself every once in a while.

I didn't even say one clan was definitely hoarding, i used the quotes around -hoarding- to add sarcasm to the term. and no I can't say for sure that nobody is hoarding, cuz i do not have that info, but i like to think we got a decent crowd here on lugh. For the most part people Are giving the drops to people who need them. And I definitely don't think keeping drops u need is hoarding either, how is anyone supposed to get to 4 crowns without holding 1 2 and 3?

I have tried to camp 2 months to get my urns for full dl armour,and i always getting bad luck and busy irl so i think we should sell dl items for cheap price:)

I agree with selling dl parts except crowns

-1 for selling dl items.

I would suggest, if you have full dl or don't need an item, just dont dice for it lol !!! like this you wont have as much junk in your bank, and at least people who really need them, will have a chance to get them quickly,help for fight if you realy want to have more ppl with full dl. For the ones, already in bank, just give them away regarding level and presence of the player. I saw so many daily people 180-190, still asking for dl spare and never get them, while they are sitting in banks waiting for a new *** up rule to say that they can get gold for it.

It is funny how people change rules to adapt they need lol !!!
Exemple :

For aggy at begininng it was : 140 melee classe
120 druid then became 130 then 140
130 mages then 140

For mordris : 180 req with double roll for 185 then 188 then all the same after fews people said that it was enough and unfair

For 200 : lock on start, then 5min, then 1 star

For a rule to be efficient and benefit all players not only few it had to be agreed by all first and discussed !!!

Some are saying that only high levels are voting or commenting in forums. You want some change, some evolution,chieftain, general or guardians should push their clannes to express their opinion on forum, if they dont, they to bad lol

-1 to selling DL items.

Oisin

True kam...

I see some people voting. I appreciate it but this topic wasnt to vote. It was for everyone to express why or why not to allow selling of DL. I was trying to give everyone an opportunity to express themselves on the topic. Then decide whether or not it should go to a vote. So... If you are for or against it, just explain why. Get the ideas and thoughts out there. Some of us may be swayed based on your points of view.

Except for crowns, right now i still dont see a reason to not sell these items. Some clans dont sell quest items. They give freely. But some people do make their gold from merching and these items would help them and hopefully boost the Lugh the economy.

sorry to have been so inactive lately.

first, -1 on selling drops.

second, while our current system is not perfect, and some abuse it, i have found it far more pleasant than when trying to get meteoric or frozen. In particular, i am a huge fan of class based dicing (for quest stuff like DL or regular class drops like mordy) regardless of whether items can be sold. i think it is far more efficient and far less frustrating. Nothing angered me more than trying to get a yellow stag and having to buy it from the warrior who happened to get the drop.

while, in a perfect world, those who had full DL would stop dicing for what they didnt need, the reality is, we had no way of knowing if people really had to pay off others. So we created a set of rules that were reasonably fair and (more importantly), enforceable.

The system was never going to be a very efficient method of ensuring the most powerful got DL first. That kind of distribution is best left to clans - and since we are not a clan-dominated server, there will always be inefficiencies.

Having said all that, i recognize that there is a huge difference between rogues/warriors and rangers/druids/mages. i know rangers/druids/mages have helped each other out quite a bit (since i have alts in those three classes) with DL stuff. But the rarity (relative to number of players) of DL for warriors and rogues makes it harder to be generous, even if you are inclined that way.

Because of this, i think it is reasonable to consider special options for rogues and warriors. a few options i can think of off the top of my head (and i do not necessarily think they are all the way to go).

option 1: guild system
if the vast majority of warriors/rogues agree, we create two guilds (warrior and rogue). Obviously the guilds are virtual as there is no mechanism for actually creating them. Each guild should have a guild-master (think chief). Each guild can either -
a) create a 'list' of people, in order who get DL drops
b) have the guild-master take control of all drops of their color to distribute to the members. In this case, the guild-master should have full DL (no conflict of interest) and be someone trusted enough (or seen as wise enough) to distribute the drops. Perhaps your guild-master could even be from a different class.

if you use the guild system, the DM will simply mail DL items of that color to the guild-master.

Option 2: some selling
maybe open up more plentiful items (gems, eggs, urns) to sale for red and purple. Perhaps even fixed pricing

Option 3: crown selling - fixed price
create a single fixed price for crowns that is reasonable - enough to be a nice profit, but won't break the bank of someone needing to buy 8 of them.

again, these are suggestions only for red and purple because they are particularly difficult to come by.

Personally, i like option 1 the best - but 2 and 3 might be palatable if the prices are reasonable. of course, there may be many other options, or we keep things as they are now.