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Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

#12
My personal thoughts...

1. You meet level requirement then you can dice. I understand that 150 is overly camped as I have been in a few fights. I do see players with multiple toons, this gives them twice the chance of winning over players with a single toon. However, if you think about it, this player spent hours and resources to get alt/alts to meet level requirements so why are we discounting this? Why will you level an alt that will not be allowed to dice?

2. Issue on greed...when at 150 I often will hear snide comments from campers. We do dice drops right? Dicing is random right? When a player is traded his/her winning for the boss kill it is at his or her disposal. Why do you care what he or she do with the drop? Accussations of greed are just that...accussations. You just make yourself sound foolish continously bashing other player/s. A friend once told me to be careful at the toes I stepped on because they may be connected to the a**es I need to kiss in the furture. Just sayin to try to keep the camping atmosphere positive. Make more friends than adversaries.

Just my thoughts...good to hear more inputs on this. Peace!
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Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

#13
I agree with reytch and derken for a little bit. Those players invested loads of time in their characters so they shouldn't be discounted for it. But then i come to the greed part. Offcourse in a figh like mordris and necro i imagine that every help is needed. But when 30 people are camping for example the 150 boss from the beltane event now, doesn't it seem a little bit greedy to grab ur other devices and roll with all of them while they did not actually play a big part in the fight?

My point is that we should make a clear line between greed and people who are trying to help out. Offcourse it will be really hard to solve this because nowadays we still haven't solved this problem. But a friend told me once that Lugh is a civilized server, and not a server in anarchy like some other servers. Just trying to help everyone out and prevent some fights. Maybe we should make a difference between raid bosses( i don't count aggy as a raid boss anymore because there r enough strong players to take him down. Someone took aggy even down with only one group). But i understand that for some other hard bosses all fire-power is needed.
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Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

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U mist realize people make alts for a reason and if they can't dice for their hard work why should u??? Just chase u have 1 character go level another and u would prob want to dice. But if ur saying they can't dice why should u??? Chase u put in more time ??? They did twice that. Cuase u have 1 charaxter metting req they did that to. They have done everything double what u did and in ur own "greed" u want more of a chance to get the drop. Sorry but I think if u meet the req u have very right to dice. Cuase from what I'm seeing its greed on ur side as well cuase u want a better chance for the drop well so do they. Hard work pays off in life go out and make a second account and ull get why they should dice

Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

#15
It's amazing to have high level alts for bosses that are hard to tackle.
It's annoying having people bring 2 alts to a boss that's easily tackled by 8 people that's already infested by 50 people.

There are both pros and cons to it. However I believe the rule should stay as it is. No need to change it, it's as good as it will get right now.

Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

#16
U mist realize people make alts for a reason and if they can't dice for their hard work why should u??? Just chase u have 1 character go level another and u would prob want to dice. But if ur saying they can't dice why should u??? Chase u put in more time ??? They did twice that. Cuase u have 1 charaxter metting req they did that to. They have done everything double what u did and in ur own "greed" u want more of a chance to get the drop. Sorry but I think if u meet the req u have very right to dice. Cuase from what I'm seeing its greed on ur side as well cuase u want a better chance for the drop well so do they. Hard work pays off in life go out and make a second account and ull get why they should dice
I have to say, I was skeptical about this whole argument before this post, but this has opened my eyes to your side of the argument.
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Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

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Alts are alts. A few ppl enjoy dual devicing and play well. Some people make alts because they are bored. Whether its to try a new class or because like many of us, we have nothing else to do but camp 3-4 bosses. Whatever the reason is, its still 1 person. With the exception of druids, most alts arent needed anymore. If 190's are camping 2 toons at a 150 boss its greed in my opinion. If you want to gear your alt then treat it like a main and only bring your alt to a boss fight. Gaining an advantage over others in dicing is greedy. I know quite a few players who could dual device or even triple and yet they still play 1 toon at a time. I'm not trying to change any rules or anything I'm just stating my opinion. I happen to feel guilty showing up at 150 or Aggy with Vir. I know i wont use the drops and so many other players who are lower than me on their mains are trying to get good boss drops. Yes, I do show up at some quest bosses but they are different in my opinion. Helping a clannie finish a quest is different than greeding rare items from a community boss. Once again, this is just my opinion.

Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

#18
U mist realize people make alts for a reason and if they can't dice for their hard work why should u??? Just chase u have 1 character go level another and u would prob want to dice. But if ur saying they can't dice why should u??? Chase u put in more time ??? They did twice that. Cuase u have 1 charaxter metting req they did that to. They have done everything double what u did and in ur own "greed" u want more of a chance to get the drop. Sorry but I think if u meet the req u have very right to dice. Cuase from what I'm seeing its greed on ur side as well cuase u want a better chance for the drop well so do they. Hard work pays off in life go out and make a second account and ull get why they should dice
i personally think that bringing 3 alts to the 150 is very selfish and unacceptable. the fact is that these players and their "alts" are taking advantage of the rest of the player base. i have seen in the past players using old toons that they don't level, bring their alts to Aggragoth just to get chances at extra drops. This person was a rogue with a 140 mage, conveniently satisfying the minimum req to fight Aggragoth. so if they won a mage drop, it would forever rot in there inventory and they effectively took a drop out of the hands of someone's main. which brings me to my next point and i want everyone to read this carefully.

i recall hearing many many times that people want "the best for lugh." we can all work together and gear each other up. we can boss together and be happy and joyful. it all sounds good in writing. unfortunately this is somewhat distant from reality. while i do agree that lugh works together well in many aspects, there is an undertone of greedy looming in us all. many players choose to deny it. there are many hypocrites out there who like to point fingers. a perfect lugh would help everyone achieve a summer boss set, whether dmg aura, ability, etc. i personally think that it should be this way.

players should complete 1 set for their main, then when everyone is geared with 1 set, then and only then we can work on alts and newer players. i see players who have completed a set only to continue to camp and increase the difficulty of anyone else who wants one. i know some players who look only to complete 1 set and upon completing that set would stop camping altogether. its just ridiculous for someone to continue to camp over and over again at all the bosses let alone 1.

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Re: How many chars cab u bring to a boss

#20
I totally agree with mysteryman. Problem is that that would never happen. there will always be players who stick with the rule that u can bring as many alts as possible. Why? Because it is already decided and then thy can't sell the drops they didn't need in first place.
No rule is engraved in stone, you can have a vote on this if you want.
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