Celtic Heroes

Ks:
The action of attacking a monster that another character (not in the same party) is already attacking, without permission.
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Kill stealing Is a word someone shouts every day in every world, but do you know truely what kill stealing is? In my world of Epona kill stealing is a undefined subject we just shout if we didn't get a kill. On bosses kill stealing is miss used. Most likely if you come across a boss with another and his group is there first you wait, out of respect to see if maybe they will fail and you will have a chance. Well if two people spot a boss and your group is not there first this doesn't mean it is a ks if you decide to make the first move and attack, it just means you are not showing a lot of respect to the other group... Falgren, I'm sure every world has falgren campers. Well if you decide to pop in and see a falgren spawn, is it wrong IF you make a group to kill it, even though there were campers? Yes it is, is it ks? No it is not. Having seen any boss pop up you have the opportunity to kill it. It Does not mean you are ksing.
Reply if you agree or think otherwise.


Allpashion
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KSing is: Person 1 attacks a mob, Person 2 comes along and finishes off the mob and takes kill.

KSing is NOT: Person 1 sees a mob but doesn't attack. Person 2 rushes in an kills the mob before Person 1 had a chance to attack.

Applicable to Groups/Bosses too.

I have alot to say on this topic and I will be using a variety of different situations as exambles... So please bare with me while I try to explain what I believe propper "Boss Etiquette" is.

Epona has a bunch of campers for a variety of the high level bosses, falgren, deadroot phs, rockbelly phs. The term Ks gets thrown around and it is often not the case. Just because you've waited the entire hour since the last spawn doesn't mean it is your mob. Only that you have a chance to be included. If you are there when the boss has popped, you have just as fair game on the mob than the camper.

If there is one or more spotter of a boss (they were all there at time of spawn) they should try to group together before inviting outside parties. If the classes do not work in a group, then the spotters may have to form sepersste groups. if no agreement is decided how to handle the situation, groups with majority of there players(5+/7) can engage the boss to claim it. First to engage boss has "claimed" the boss and has the rights to it as long as they don't lose agro, or boss dies.

I would say spotters would have 10 minutes to form groups and engage boss before a group who shows up after the spawn has the right to engage without being disrespectful. That it is if the the people who show up after do not wish to include the spotters... which is kind of rude, but sometimes necissary.

This is my idea of proper "Boss Etiquette"

if lots of people are at a spawn spot then those who need it for a quest should be given priority. If you have warden weapon and torso armor then you really need to let someone without get in the Falgren group.

This topic is kinda splitting hairs. I certainly don't agree with morons who think that because they were about to attack something it's theirs, and I mean that about purple unicorns more than falgren. Whenever people accuse me of KS'ing their unicorn, I tell them "yes that's right go announce in shout that you got 'KS'd' by a Druid, let me know how that goes for you."

Everything in your original post's contents however are examples of poor player etiquette. Does it matter in a "webster's dictionary" sense that Group B cut in on Group A obviously waiting for the boss and took it and that technically that isn't KS'ing?

I don't really think so. The fact is Group B didn't KS, they were proactive, quicker and more alert at the spawn, but it certainly isn't gonna win you any awards for etiquette or for honor or proper conduct. A KS maybe, in the mind of the Original Poster, shouldn't become this catch all term for every bad action committed on a player base, but the end result is STILL bad player etiquette. No matter what it's exact definition is.

To me, it all does the same thing. It makes people feel cheated and angry and causes grief. And whether it really is a KS or isn't misses the point.

The point is don't take a dump on my face and tell me because of the counter-clockwise swirl of fecal matter I can't really techincally call it a dump . If it looks, smells and drips like crap, I'm gonna tell you you took a dump on my face. You can CSI it later, but what matters is the conduct that was carried out, not it's technical term.

One additional item most people completely ignore. If you have every used two iDevices together you will notice that there is a 1-2 second lag between what you do and what the other device sees. It is possible that both people thought they attacked first and both would be right. Relatively close calls should always be be given the benefit of the doubt.

One additional item most people completely ignore. If you have every used two iDevices together you will notice that there is a 1-2 second lag between what you do and what the other device sees. It is possible that both people thought they attacked first and both would be right. Relatively close calls should always be be given the benefit of the doubt.

That is the most sensible thing that has ever been said in this forum on this issue Papi, EVER!

Wish more people considered this before they started 'battle of the titans kill stealing wars' and derogatory shouting matches!!!

I also agree with nearly everything Teaweasel states as well, right up to the scatological references near the end that is... Not hard to tell he is a bona fide New Yorker, eh? Just kidding tea.

At a certain point however, I gotta respect everyone's right to take a crack at a boss if they are capable of bringing it down - regardless of how long certain other players want to haunt the spawning ground in am attempt to lay 'claim' to it. It is a competitive world out there and if you can't compete, go train some more... That being said, I find it pointless to hold grudges over this sort of thing, unless it is a case of someone following you around and CONSTANTLY kill-stealing from you.

Trust me, being more civil, forgiving, and understanding about this sort of thing will make you a more desirable partner in groups/clans, more likeable in general, and you will enjoy your gaming experience more. YOu might even live longer.

The point is don't take a dump on my face and tell me because of the counter-clockwise swirl of fecal matter I can't really techincally call it a dump . If it looks, smells and drips like crap, I'm gonna tell you you took a dump on my face. You can CSI it later, but what matters is the conduct that was carried out, not it's technical term.

I'm reading this at work, attempting to look professional and really doing my best to contain the giant LOL!!! that is brewing... there is a little tear in the side of my eye... but I think I've held it off.

Ok...

All the love and etiquette aside

We carry axes, hammers, swords, dirks etc etc etc right?

Those are meant to KILL things (last I checked anyway). That said, if I'm up against 4 level 45's and I'm level 95 and I walk up and one hit the boss/mob and kill it... Tough If I get the kill - means... Well means I'm stronger.

It's a war game (unless the "clan" part escapes the keen eye and those previously mentioned weapons oh ya and the killing part too). Clans battled in real life (example: watch Braveheart) and guess who won - THE STRONGEST!

Level up - grow a pair - get stronger and "ks" me. <--- free advice

Tea - I know there are unicorns (and I'm sure rainbows if your suggestion made it into design ) but seriously, ksing shouldn't even be a term EVER used. How about we replace killing with passing out fluffy Teddy bears and pillow fights?

@loki Everyone has their own way of playing the game, so if that's the way you do then good for you, me personally, I play with the same manners and morals as I do out of the game, what you see is what you get.

Just wondering.. Are you in a clan? And if you are do you kill mobs that clan mates have already started just to get the kill before them? And are they ok with you doing that? ( didn't use the term ks, just for you )