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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#41
Just for many ppl here to notice, my point of view is objective as im only considered as an observer of this world, im not part of it.

When u say that a person has all rights to buy and sell something he "owns", why do u complain when Seed has all rights to kill u at the arena or kill whatever a boss they want? Arent u those who are hypocrite here?
The drops are gained as a clan, they're given for u to use in order to enjoy them and help ur clan with them (whatever ur clan is after u leave, im against demanding drops or acc from a player who left a clan, a person from our rival clan on Belenus has asked the acc from someone who left their clan because he got full dl from them), and if u try to camp only in order to sell these drops, thats greedy and selfish.

Lets say ur a clan, i'll take the rival clan (SI or whatever, idk the full name), if ur chief now decides he will sell drops so he can enjoy gold, will u support it? Not because he needs the gold (cus here when ppl need the gold we send them either openly or secretly, we started donating gold for our tanks for example), but because he wants the gold out of greedy purposes. Im sure that none of u would want ur clan members to sell the drops u have all worked for just so he can enjoy some gold.
The clan works for these drops as a clan and not as individuals, thus why the drops belong the clan even if given to a person. Killing innocent ppl? It might be tough, but maybe try to talk with Seed and make some understanding, being killed but not on glad or something like that in order to help them regain what they own or at least try and clear things up. Buying these drops from a scammer, a thief, doesnt make u quite innocent either, if the rival clan doesnt care for u enough that they are willing to 'punish' u for it as well, then ur clans have bad relationship and both clans will be to blame for it, not just the one that has the power to kill.

What ive seen the most here is ppl supporting the drops thief not because they support their freedom so much, but because they want bad for Seed as they're jealous and hateful, and they want to get the drops they dont quite deserve (might deserve as a person, but if u cant kill it why complain about not being able to get the drops?), as its a lil bitchy to enjoy from Seed's loss, u wanna buy these drops even tho they're scammed while u know they're scammed, ur not innocent, ur just jealous.
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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#43
Just for many ppl here to notice, my point of view is objective as im only considered as an observer of this world, im not part of it.

When u say that a person has all rights to buy and sell something he "owns", why do u complain when Seed has all rights to kill u at the arena or kill whatever a boss they want? Arent u those who are hypocrite here?
The drops are gained as a clan, they're given for u to use in order to enjoy them and help ur clan with them (whatever ur clan is after u leave, im against demanding drops or acc from a player who left a clan, a person from our rival clan on Belenus has asked the acc from someone who left their clan because he got full dl from them), and if u try to camp only in order to sell these drops, thats greedy and selfish.

Lets say ur a clan, i'll take the rival clan (SI or whatever, idk the full name), if ur chief now decides he will sell drops so he can enjoy gold, will u support it? Not because he needs the gold (cus here when ppl need the gold we send them either openly or secretly, we started donating gold for our tanks for example), but because he wants the gold out of greedy purposes. Im sure that none of u would want ur clan members to sell the drops u have all worked for just so he can enjoy some gold.
The clan works for these drops as a clan and not as individuals, thus why the drops belong the clan even if given to a person. Killing innocent ppl? It might be tough, but maybe try to talk with Seed and make some understanding, being killed but not on glad or something like that in order to help them regain what they own or at least try and clear things up. Buying these drops from a scammer, a thief, doesnt make u quite innocent either, if the rival clan doesnt care for u enough that they are willing to 'punish' u for it as well, then ur clans have bad relationship and both clans will be to blame for it, not just the one that has the power to kill.

What ive seen the most here is ppl supporting the drops thief not because they support their freedom so much, but because they want bad for Seed as they're jealous and hateful, and they want to get the drops they dont quite deserve (might deserve as a person, but if u cant kill it why complain about not being able to get the drops?), as its a lil bitchy to enjoy from Seed's loss, u wanna buy these drops even tho they're scammed while u know they're scammed, ur not innocent, ur just jealous.
although this is well written with good intentions.. And I'm sure you meant to do so. You have to experience the world for yourself. We appreciate the input however.. And it will be noted. If common ground is to be reached the insults are the first to go. As purple said its a game and we should enjoy it.. Although sometimes Seed makes it hard to enjoy at the end of the day.. We are one as a member of Crom
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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#44
^I can tell u from Belenus, as we're also like that, a dominant clan and a rival clan, we rarely do these things (to rival clan only) depends on how bad is the case, and each clan has it's own standards and it's own way of taking care of their problems, killing at the arena is a very valid one and it gets to that in many cases, as its meant for pvp and fight on glad.

Even if i wouldnt do it myself, i wouldnt ignore their reason for doing it like in here, most of the ppl who commented here didnt give a crap for Seed's reasons and prob never did out of jealousy and hate, this is why i blame the anti-seeds for any kinds of un-fun times u spend at Crom more than i blame Seed.

If u want middle ground, both sides need to put themselves in the other side's shoes and understand it, as ur the ones who suggested peace all i can suggest is u put urselves in Seed's shoes first as i believe Seed can keep going like that for a while.
Just notice one thing Invaded, i can assure u that most ppl in this thread dont want peace more than they want Seed to suffer from what happened, and i dont even need to play on the world, as it seems SI is exactly like Ronin of Belenus, while the comments against Seed are the exact comments against Elementals, both our clans act differently yet we get the same comments, either if its Seed who threats u or Elementals who doesnt threat u, so its very easy for me to compare both clans when comments are equal.

One more thing, I personally dont think Seed are doing it just as an excuse to hurt others or only out of greed for their loss of drops, but more to prevent something like that from happening as im sure no one really likes seeing the scammers enjoying what they have done so openly, and i can even prove it :
why would the people who buy the stolen items be targeted?
By discouraging people from buying it will stop people from selling. As for your other questions and comments do you really want to flame me up and turn yourself from a minor annoyance into a target?
What he says here is not 'if they buy the drops they're no better than the scammers themselves', he says that this action even tho its bad for the short run, it'll affect for good in the long run for both sides (unless ur side is the side that support scamming drops from a clan just so u can buy it, and im sure many here are taking that side) as it'll discourage ppl from scamming a clan and will prevent any more things like that, and they're right that ppl dont 'deserve' (this word is correct and incorrect at the same time as we're not to decide who deserves what, yet if u cant kill mordy u dont deserve having her drops) these drops the clan worked hard for, u cant just pay for the drops making it equal to all the hard work they have done in order to get the same drops, hows that fair?


To sum things up, im with Seed on that if ur too lazy to read, and no im not from Crom yet i prob made my acc on Crom much before many others here did.
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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#46
Just an observation, in the real world, knowingly buying stolen items is a crime

In the game the "crimes" and enforcement are set by yher server and is fully fair for seed to treat people who buy stolen items as criminals
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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#47
Just an observation, in the real world, knowingly buying stolen items is a crime

In the game the "crimes" and enforcement are set by yher server and is fully fair for seed to treat people who buy stolen items as criminals
Show some love to criminals, they're still humans :S
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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#48
Just an observation, in the real world, knowingly buying stolen items is a crime

In the game the "crimes" and enforcement are set by yher server and is fully fair for seed to treat people who buy stolen items as criminals
Not in all countries :3 and besides buying stolen rems unknowingly isnt a crime. The item may be repossessed but that wont happen most likely all I am upset about is the threats we recieve even when I do nothing
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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#49
Just an observation, in the real world, knowingly buying stolen items is a crime

In the game the "crimes" and enforcement are set by yher server and is fully fair for seed to treat people who buy stolen items as criminals
Not in all countries :3 and besides buying stolen rems unknowingly isnt a crime. The item may be repossessed but that wont happen most likely all I am upset about is the threats we recieve even when I do nothing
Don't buy the stolen items and it won't be a problem
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Re: Warning - do not buy items stolen from Seed

#50
besides buying stolen rems unknowingly isnt a crime
Unknowingly? It's pretty well known the only clan that can kill hrung or mord is Seed.
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