Btw, I wanted to add that about him (him becaue he still was legally a man)commiting suicide, it is his fault!
There are various ways of people like him to meet other people with the same intrests. Bars, clubs, and the Internet are just a few ways.
It is HIS fault becaue HE chose to be a loner and stay away from the world instead of not giving a rip about the opinion of others and meeting other people like him.
Its like lifting weights. I lift the weights I can handle, and I lift because I WANT TO.
If you lift more then you can handle, then you're going to get hurt bad, and thats what Josh did.... He went far enough to be a transgender, without the strength to ignore the negativity that it brought. Therefore, he quit and selfishly commited suicide, and even put the poor trucker in trouble . Seriously, if you choose to die, then it is a choice. He did not shake it off and move on, but he just went ahead and left people that loved him and he probably was too blind to see that.
Anyone who thinks of commiing suicide think twice... You're hurting others, but most importantly you're just hurting your selves.
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#102I say if ur gonna kill urself dont be a *** and do it in public to cause problems, do it in ur house.
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#103Legally yes. I know what you mean on that being ridiculous, and that is why I used a 15 year old as an example. A 21 yo having sexx with a 15 yo is highly illegal, and considered pedophiliaa, how ever, what if that 15 year old willingly accepted or even asked to have relationships with him?Okay woah back up, you say you're a pedophile if you have an attraction to someone under 18. You can't seriously be saying that the 18 year olds in 12th grade dating their 17 year old partners also in the same grade are pedophiles.
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#104In all seriousness, you throw out the word bigotry a lot.I only throw bigotry at people who demonstrate bigotry by discriminating.No offence but Pigman throws the word "bigotry" around quite a lot when something doesn't agree with his atheist, liberal, and Canadian POV.
Again, I like Pigman a lot but I don't like how he puts down anyone who isn't on his side and he doesn't like to listen to arguments or other's say in the matter. (off-topic stuff not game stuff)
Gender is not the same as sex, to dispute that is bigoted.
You are no better then a 12 year old calling people *** when someone doesnt agree with them.
I bet if I'd kill you and ks your gladiator in arena you would call me a bigot nab
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#105Ok so I had to add my voice here.
Twi, do you honestly expect to put a post on this forum(which has a history of debating this kind of stuff) and expect everyone who disagrees with you to remain silent? I am sorry she/he died yes. But pardon me if I don't express the desire to support the homosexual/transexual movement, or support a movement to support homosexuals or transgenders.
As for bigotry, do I believe that that sort of thing is wrong? Yes I do. Do I hate people who are homosexual or transexual? No I do not. Am I afraid of them? No(which means you can't call me a homophobe{well you can but it won't be accurate}).
But really(and this is what will get the topic locked) it all boils down to whether the Bible is true, or evolution is true for me. If it wasn't for the Bible, I might be able to tolerate homosexual and transexual stuff(regardless of whether I think its natural or not or whether I think it is kind of disgusting or not{now gay marriage is another topic}). However, I see no proof that the Bible is wrong, and I see a ton of proof that evolution is wrong.
Again, I do not hate homosexuals or transexuals. I just believe what they are doing is sin.
Twi, do you honestly expect to put a post on this forum(which has a history of debating this kind of stuff) and expect everyone who disagrees with you to remain silent? I am sorry she/he died yes. But pardon me if I don't express the desire to support the homosexual/transexual movement, or support a movement to support homosexuals or transgenders.
As for bigotry, do I believe that that sort of thing is wrong? Yes I do. Do I hate people who are homosexual or transexual? No I do not. Am I afraid of them? No(which means you can't call me a homophobe{well you can but it won't be accurate}).
But really(and this is what will get the topic locked) it all boils down to whether the Bible is true, or evolution is true for me. If it wasn't for the Bible, I might be able to tolerate homosexual and transexual stuff(regardless of whether I think its natural or not or whether I think it is kind of disgusting or not{now gay marriage is another topic}). However, I see no proof that the Bible is wrong, and I see a ton of proof that evolution is wrong.
Again, I do not hate homosexuals or transexuals. I just believe what they are doing is sin.
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#106You just locked the topicOk so I had to add my voice here.
Twi, do you honestly expect to put a post on this forum(which has a history of debating this kind of stuff) and expect everyone who disagrees with you to remain silent? I am sorry she/he died yes. But pardon me if I don't express the desire to support the homosexual/transexual movement, or support a movement to support homosexuals or transgenders.
As for bigotry, do I believe that that sort of thing is wrong? Yes I do. Do I hate people who are homosexual or transexual? No I do not. Am I afraid of them? No(which means you can't call me a homophobe{well you can but it won't be accurate}).
But really(and this is what will get the topic locked) it all boils down to whether the Bible is true, or evolution is true for me. If it wasn't for the Bible, I might be able to tolerate homosexual and transexual stuff(regardless of whether I think its natural or not or whether I think it is kind of disgusting or not{now gay marriage is another topic}). However, I see no proof that the Bible is wrong, and I see a ton of proof that evolution is wrong.
Again, I do not hate homosexuals or transexuals. I just believe what they are doing is sin.
Good job
Anyway, I was born a Catholic, but I don't think It should be classed as sin, I personally believe in a more loving God who accepts all of his children- whether they love men, women or both. Also you might not want to go bashing evolution etc as this is the stuff that starts arguements
Your arguement is invalid.
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#107For f**ks sake...Lock this piece of shizz topic!
Every time I see this bumped back to the the top, I just groan. I GROAAAN!
Every time I see this bumped back to the the top, I just groan. I GROAAAN!
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#108You have the right to believe in that God....but it isn't the God of the Bible. Well, let me rephrase that. While God does love everyone He made, He also is a firm God. To Him sin is sin. And it is clearly shown that according to the Bible, being homosexual is sin.You just locked the topicOk so I had to add my voice here.
Twi, do you honestly expect to put a post on this forum(which has a history of debating this kind of stuff) and expect everyone who disagrees with you to remain silent? I am sorry she/he died yes. But pardon me if I don't express the desire to support the homosexual/transexual movement, or support a movement to support homosexuals or transgenders.
As for bigotry, do I believe that that sort of thing is wrong? Yes I do. Do I hate people who are homosexual or transexual? No I do not. Am I afraid of them? No(which means you can't call me a homophobe{well you can but it won't be accurate}).
But really(and this is what will get the topic locked) it all boils down to whether the Bible is true, or evolution is true for me. If it wasn't for the Bible, I might be able to tolerate homosexual and transexual stuff(regardless of whether I think its natural or not or whether I think it is kind of disgusting or not{now gay marriage is another topic}). However, I see no proof that the Bible is wrong, and I see a ton of proof that evolution is wrong.
Again, I do not hate homosexuals or transexuals. I just believe what they are doing is sin.
Good job
Anyway, I was born a Catholic, but I don't think It should be classed as sin, I personally believe in a more loving God who accepts all of his children- whether they love men, women or both. Also you might not want to go bashing evolution etc as this is the stuff that starts arguements
And bro...I was on the original 3 arguments about evolution. I know. But I also feel that that is where the topic would have probably led anyway. People would have started questioning the Bible, and as the major alternative to the Bible is evolution, it makes no sense to me to beat around the bush. Even if the topic would not have gone there, it makes no sense to not get to the actual core of the matter.
Psalm 46:10 He says, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."
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#109Oh and as for you being Catholic...look at Ephesians 2:8-9
Psalm 46:10 He says, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."
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#110Isn't it only if there is a 3-year gap?By definition and legal practice-- yes....Okay woah back up, you say you're a pedophile if you have an attraction to someone under 18. You can't seriously be saying that the 18 year olds in 12th grade dating their 17 year old partners also in the same grade are pedophiles.
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