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Bourne, he said implement proper raid groups as in linking 30-40 people all into one group for the boss

Bourne, he said implement proper raid groups as in linking 30-40 people all into one group for the boss

That works only in worlds with no competition, aka Morrigan. In a world with competition two raids group could gather and u cant make a boss immune only to specific ppl who are under the same conditions as other ppl. What Bourne said is correct.

Bourne, he said implement proper raid groups as in linking 30-40 people all into one group for the boss

That works only in worlds with no competition, aka Morrigan. In a world with competition two raids group could gather and u cant make a boss immune only to specific ppl who are under the same conditions as other ppl. What Bourne said is correct.

Morrigan does have comp
Raid bosses, aka those requiring 30-40 people could be the only ones affected, or accross the board make it 20 death cap after lock

so basically the change is to start the rage timer when it is locked, rather than when it is first engaged?


if that's the case on bosses like necro, if there is no competition dps should remain ungrouped until the lock so that way you could dps the boss down as much as possible before getting the lock.

Technically, u can let a single person have lock if ppl stay ungrouped and let him stay alive as much as he wants, thus making it possible to zerg freely and avoid rage.

*Deleted old idea - didnt work*

@Aileron's idea,

The only way it could work is if each PLAYER attacking the boss is treated separately by the boss. So each player can only die say 5 times. Once a player dies 5 times any add or boss the player dealt damage to becomes immune to the player and the player loses lock and damage dealt (in the same way you do when you die) until the boss/add is killed or reset. Ofcourse logging out or leaving the area should not reset your death count.

In addition, if possible, the boss should switch aggro to the players that havent reached their 5 death count yet, so that other players cant be used as sacrifice to negate damage to the rest. That way kill count can start straight away and you can still compete for the boss with less possibility of exploits.

The biggest issue i have is rival clans griefing you on the boss by dragging adds or spam calming the tank and killing your players to increase your death count. There would have to be less adds that do AOE attacks and Calm must be restricted to Raid group members only so that it cant be used by someone outside of raid group on players in the group.

@Aileron's idea,

The only way it could work is if each PLAYER attacking the boss is treated separately by the boss. So each player can only die say 5 times. Once a player dies 5 times any add or boss the player dealt damage to becomes immune to the player and the player loses lock and damage dealt (in the same way you do when you die) until the boss/add is killed or reset. Ofcourse logging out or leaving the area should not reset your death count.

In addition, if possible, the boss should switch aggro to the players that havent reached their 5 death count yet, so that other players cant be used as sacrifice to negate damage to the rest. That way kill count can start straight away and you can still compete for the boss with less possibility of exploits.

The biggest issue i have is rival clans griefing you on the boss by dragging adds or spam calming the tank and killing your players to increase your death count. There would have to be less adds that do AOE attacks and Calm must be restricted to Raid group members only so that it cant be used by someone outside of raid group on players in the group.

Thats the whole point in fixing broken game mechanics before nerfing idols.

@ bourne

Unless they follow his suggestion closely and make raid style groups where only the players in its deaths actually count...

Any other issues? No? Okay.

I have always been a strong believer of raid groups. If implemented correctly then it would be great.

To be honest, I'm surprised it's only being discussed now, especially since it was first suggested at least 3 years ago and multiple times after this.

Reference: http://celtic-heroes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4417