Celtic Heroes

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I sacrificed all my characters i made on my main n made new ones. Sucks I know but I never thought back then that I would duel/tri log.

I hope not. It may suck having multiple toons on the same account eliminating the ability to duel/tri/quad log; however, it eliminates some of the players that would take advantage of this. There was a certain point when players became bored and started making tons of alts. This increases to chance to get drops and you have alts getting better equipped than some peoples mains. In Lugh, there are a select few that bring 3+ alts and are allowed to diced 3+ times for a single item whereas most get 1 dice chance. Kinda unfair dont you think? Worst part, is some of these players had tons of drops including godly drops, yet were greedy enough to still come back for more. In my opinion, players like this need to be run out of the game due to their ill acts. Dont let this happen anymore than it does. Trust me.

I hope not. It may suck having multiple toons on the same account eliminating the ability to duel/tri/quad log; however, it eliminates some of the players that would take advantage of this. There was a certain point when players became bored and started making tons of alts. This increases to chance to get drops and you have alts getting better equipped than some peoples mains. In Lugh, there are a select few that bring 3+ alts and are allowed to diced 3+ times for a single item whereas most get 1 dice chance. Kinda unfair dont you think? Worst part, is some of these players had tons of drops including godly drops, yet were greedy enough to still come back for more. In my opinion, players like this need to be run out of the game due to their ill acts. Dont let this happen anymore than it does. Trust me.

How is doing 3x the work of someone and then not getting 3x the share unfair? You do realize that it's not exactly easy to equip multiple accounts right? How about we cripple your family and only one person gets paid for working but you are all forced to keep your jobs or no one gets paid period? Does that sound fair?

I'm not talking about people who start adding low lvl alts just to hog spots for loot they aren't doing anything productive. But it's pretty bs that people who take the time to do the work aren't paid for it. In my eyes the greedy are the ones who aren't powerful, yet demand more than their share for work done. It's an entitlement ideology that hurts everyone in the end. If someone fights 3 separate battles simeltaneously they get the same 3x loot but since you don't see that suddenly it's ok? Many times the only reason the solo player is getting the boss at all is because of my toons; they lack the power or the clannies or the online friends to get the job done.

When people get so greedy they demand beyond what they are capable of working for i tend to just cut them out and take everything because they bring little or nothing to the table but whining. I've never refused to party with honest fair working people who aren't ***holes and if i don't need loot I've often given it away if it lands on one of my toons.

I hope not. It may suck having multiple toons on the same account eliminating the ability to duel/tri/quad log; however, it eliminates some of the players that would take advantage of this. There was a certain point when players became bored and started making tons of alts. This increases to chance to get drops and you have alts getting better equipped than some peoples mains. In Lugh, there are a select few that bring 3+ alts and are allowed to diced 3+ times for a single item whereas most get 1 dice chance. Kinda unfair dont you think? Worst part, is some of these players had tons of drops including godly drops, yet were greedy enough to still come back for more. In my opinion, players like this need to be run out of the game due to their ill acts. Dont let this happen anymore than it does. Trust me.

How is doing 3x the work of someone and then not getting 3x the share unfair? You do realize that it's not exactly easy to equip multiple accounts right? How about we cripple your family and only one person gets paid for working but you are all forced to keep your jobs or no one gets paid period? Does that sound fair?

I'm not talking about people who start adding low lvl alts just to hog spots for loot they aren't doing anything productive. But it's pretty bs that people who take the time to do the work aren't paid for it. In my eyes the greedy are the ones who aren't powerful, yet demand more than their share for work done. It's an entitlement ideology that hurts everyone in the end. If someone fights 3 separate battles simeltaneously they get the same 3x loot but since you don't see that suddenly it's ok? Many times the only reason the solo player is getting the boss at all is because of my toons; they lack the power or the clannies or the online friends to get the job done.

When people get so greedy they demand beyond what they are capable of working for i tend to just cut them out and take everything because they bring little or nothing to the table but whining. I've never refused to party with honest fair working people who aren't ***holes and if i don't need loot I've often given it away if it lands on one of my toons.

It's pretty easy to equip multiple toons. I've done my fair share of working and earning all that I have, but I can't say the same about some of the people in my world. I cannot speak for any other world but my own, but I can say that camping 3+ toons when you already have the godly drops is highly unethical. These people then go on to either horde or rip off someone for their items. The alts here basically exist to collect a drop and screw over the honest and quiet players who have 1 toon. I've suggested a solution of only dicing for 1 drop but for the respected classes you bring. So if you have a ranger and druid present and a ranger, rogue, and druid item drops, you only pick 1 toon to dice for 1 single class req item. So a druid to dice for the druid item. This allows the drops to be distributed more evenly among the server and keeps extra drops out of the hands of triple and quad campers. It allows players who are less fortunate an equal shot as the rest.

For the record, I do not have any sense of entitlement. I work for everything I have. I am looking out for the good of the world. Dispersing drops among many people is better than dispersing drops to a select few. All bosses become easier when everyone has good gear. In a world where working together is the thing this is ideal. Maybe you are honest and give loot to those who don't have it, but there exists many jerks in my world who will hold the gear or use it to rip off the less fortunate.

Many in my clan and on the server have multiple toons. When it comes to boss drops and gearing characters, each player (not charscters) get 1 roll. And main toons almost always come before alt characters.

No it would not be fair for a player to have multiple rolls because they have multiple toons.

Many in my clan and on the server have multiple toons. When it comes to boss drops and gearing characters, each player (not charscters) get 1 roll. And main toons almost always come before alt characters.

No it would not be fair for a player to have multiple rolls because they have multiple toons.

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In a party where a player has more than one character, each *character* uses roughly the same number of pots and idols. How is it not fair for each *character* to get an equal cut of the drops? If it was one player for each toon, there would be no debate. Why does it make a difference if one player is controlling more than one of the toons?

With that said, I do agree this only applies if all of the toons the multiloggers are using are actually contributing to the fight and not some lvl 5 corpse they brought to double their drops.

In a party where a player has more than one character, each *character* uses roughly the same number of pots and idols. How is it not fair for each *character* to get an equal cut of the drops? If it was one player for each toon, there would be no debate. Why does it make a difference if one player is controlling more than one of the toons?

With that said, I do agree this only applies if all of the toons the multiloggers are using are actually contributing to the fight and not some lvl 5 corpse they brought to double their drops.

They contribute but they are totally not needed. Basically at event bosses and stuff there are way too many people and the chance at getting a drop goes down significantlly. if a single player has many items this disrupts the balance in the world.

In a party where a player has more than one character, each *character* uses roughly the same number of pots and idols. How is it not fair for each *character* to get an equal cut of the drops? If it was one player for each toon, there would be no debate. Why does it make a difference if one player is controlling more than one of the toons?

With that said, I do agree this only applies if all of the toons the multiloggers are using are actually contributing to the fight and not some lvl 5 corpse they brought to double their drops.

They contribute but they are totally not needed. Basically at event bosses and stuff there are way too many people and the chance at getting a drop goes down significantlly. if a single player has many items this disrupts the balance in the world.

First off calling multiple toons alts isn't really appropriate in some circumstances. Alts imply a secondary, alternate and inferior position. I have only ever played all simultaneously and therefore it is more appropriate to call them multiple characters.

It's often not the case where multiple toons aren't needed. With respect to a clan it may be fair to limit the drops in some ways to compensate for the cases where all multiple characters benefit from the clan. However out of clan where no benefits occur the fairness in shorting a single player with multiple accounts is not apparent to me. Adding more characters beyond a bare minimum is often beneficial to all as it reduces plat item usage and reduces the risk of a wipe if someone should disconnect or log or something go awry in general.

I suspect any case where lying about ownership would affect the outcome. For example, though against tos, many people share accounts for this purpose of circumventing entitlement attitudes. Why should honest and open players suffer while lying players benefit? Makes zero sense.