Celtic Heroes

Rogues dont want any other class to be fixed so they'll not have a match. Do u know why rogues dont feel their survivability? Because they all go for the kill, if u would take advantage of ur skills versus adds u would see it, thats why I still use pummel.
Rogues want speed, burst and highest dmg, and then whine when others want a buff, thats the most annoying thing.
@Bitey, according to that, it doesnt say warrior should not be able to deal good dps, in fact, it says going 'toe to toe' which doesnt have to be tanking, to me it sounds more like being able to inflict heavy dmg, but slower as they're more heavy which matches perfectly because they could survive longer.
@friddo, dont be biased, saying only Fingal is using logic because hes on ur side contributes nothing to the debate, if ur not gonna be objective enough to see the flaws then dont even bother.
Also, to both of u, rogues were not top dps, they didnt even give a match to mages, rangers were ahead of them as well, and before u3 even a warrior was stronger than rogues, thats why when u rogues call urselves 'kings of dps' its laughable.
@Fingal, few things :

1. U didnt answer my question either, I told u that rogues were never top dps before, did u see 0 rogues playing? Its just that u all got used to be on top that ur now so arrogant that u dont even care for any other class.
2. We all gave u answers, rogue doesnt have to be top DPS, nor dps is a role, its a universal role, and rogue has more things to do besides going for the kill and never help on adds.
3. The same thing u say about rogues could have been said about rangers, although they dont ask for being top DPS, they're not especially good with anything, so if they dont get top DPS, what else they got to do? Their support skills and generally their skills have many many issues.
4. This whole thread compares the survivability of ranger vs rogue, and still I believe rogue's is better while dealing more dps, its just that u dont wanna survive, not that u can.
5. U gave me otm's description of rogues, I explained it to u and u avoided commenting on that, why is that? Am I the one whos avoiding the questions?
6. My answer isnt not what ur 'looking for' because u dont want to hear that answer, thats why u rogues will eventually get hit by the nerf gun from too many complains, overpowerness and overpopulation, rather than learning ur lesson and agree to buff the other 4 faster.


@friddo, u said u dont have the ability to kite mobs and thats the difference, ur ability in this game to fight hand on can rival a warrior's.

@Plus3, ur correct, but most rogues dont even go for adds because they want the kill.


Celtic Heroes is an MMORPG game, in an MMORPG theres a competition on top DPS, being top DPS is never a given, thats why it is NOT A ROLE, if top dps is a given like tanking is a given, then other classes shouldnt try to deal any dps like other classes dont try to tank.

The only person here who is fighting with logic in fingal the rest of you are throwing the same arguements out desperatly clinging to them like a piece of driftwood as he rips it to pieces get a new arguement you have already lost this one

Most pointless statement in here, dont bother if u have nothing contributing to say, considering in the same comment u admitted that rogues WERE NOT top dps, meaning that if they werent always top dps, then they're not meant to be.

That's very class racist, I am usually low damage mega dex, max expose and smoke bomb.
Mages get most kills these days.

I do feel on the whole though most rogues are bad team players.

Fingal has a 190 rogue a 189 ranger and a 200 warrior rogue isn't even his main class so u cant use that as a way to point him out as biased he would benefit as much from Rangers becoming best dps than any other ranger.

Im not whining about a buff I actually said if you even bothered to read my post ranger skills are broken and need a revamp but Rangers shouldn't become top DPS because that is rogues role.
How can u say dps is not a role? That's like saying healing is not a role because we all have bandage wounds

Please find me one quote where i name myself the "king of dps" rogues are the top DPS class, true and it should stay this way due to us having things other classes don't have such as a full support role we have 2 support skills 3 if u include poison wep which is vastly less than every other class

Also ur point about us not always being top DPS so we were not meant to be is untrue in early update 2 rogue were the kings it was only until people got the warden Wep warriors and Rangers were outdpsing

Please find me one quote where i name myself the "king of dps"

update 2 rogue were the kings

Please find me one quote where i name myself the "king of dps"

update 2 rogue were the kings

Funny thing is, Friddo's only been a rogue for 5-6 months and he used to be a ranger for 2 and a half years so I don't know why he's so vehemently defending his "DPS" title and twisting our words.

In update 2 i wasn't even a rogue criminal so I wasn't calling myself a king lol

The fact that u named rogues kings, regardless of when u started playing one is exactly the point, that without even playing or being top dps before u4 rogues are still somewhat considered kings.

Please find me one quote where i name myself the "king of dps"

update 2 rogue were the kings

Funny thing is, Friddo's only been a rogue for 5-6 months and he used to be a ranger for 2 and a half years so I don't know why he's so vehemently defending his "DPS" title and twisting our words.

Rangers need better skills prefably some str based skills and maybe a poison damage based skill(but derived from the dex stat) fully agree 100%
Rangers need to be the highest dps in the game because they can only stand out of aoes kite bosses and have a wide array of skills(if the first buff is put into place) oh poor them, 0% agree

How is this twisting your words? I am saying what 98% of other Rangers are saying and then criminal comes in and starts talking about Mages and rogues which aren't even the topic of conversation. When I am talking about Rangers not overtaking rogues in dps I am disagreeing with that 2% yet somehow still being bashed by most of that 98% this makes no sense to me please elaborate

Rangers and rogues arent the only classes in-game, im especially here to comment for the other classes, who are even more broken than rangers.

Rangers and rogues arent the only classes in-game, im especially here to comment for the other classes, who are even more broken than rangers.

Um did you read the title? RANGERS vs ROGUES jeez