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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#401
I don't think the poison nerf was an attempt to destroy the rogue class our 210 rogues will both dl daggers will still outdps higher Rangers without the Shadowstrike doing Max Dmg I think it was done to make bosses last longer and we have all seen it works as unless we are doing 210 or 205 legit since we call everyone for these bosses they sometimes do rage with a fully functional shadowstrike this wouldn't work
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#402
In order to make fights longer they could do it in many ways without impacting rogues, denying that it is a nerf that has been sneaked on rogue, knowing that poison was going to be unresisted/very rarely resisted, as it doesnt have a lure, is pointless.

I think every class' nerf starts at a smaller one they sneak. Them adding poison resist and still not affecting rogues' DPS tho shows just how OP rogues are.
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#403
In order to make fights longer they could do it in many ways without impacting rogues, denying that it is a nerf that has been sneaked on rogue, knowing that poison was going to be unresisted/very rarely resisted, as it doesnt have a lure, is pointless.

I think every class' nerf starts at a smaller one they sneak. Them adding poison resist and still not affecting rogues' DPS tho shows just how OP rogues are.
I don't want rogues nerfed. On Android servers we need rogues as op as possible. I'm in a clan with a good number of high 180s and into the low 200s and we can't kill hrung because of lack of players. So the two solutions are make characters stronger or depower the bosses some. OTM shouldn't want to nerf classes. They should want the players to have successes. My main is a lvl 194 druid so while rogue nerfs don't impact me individually progressing in lvls, it does in that it inhibits higher boss kills.

Now I'm against poison resist as it nerfs my swarm skill so it hits druids too which already needed an umph and this just makes druids weaker.

The solution isn't to nerf rogues but to fix the other toons. This could be a really easy fix. Fixing a few skills from each class each week wouldn't be difficult programming at all.

Honestly I don't know why they don't pull together a think tank from 3 to 4 high lvl players of each class and do some skill fixing. To me it appears OTM is making this look more difficult than it really is. It would also seem OTM is more focused on what they want to do rather than what the players would like to see done which is where the priorities should be.
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#406
If you train on chaos mobs the poison resist nerf will do nothing as swarm is also divine dmg
Ive seen shadowstrike tho hitting rather low than usual on the 200 imps for example. Swarm is somewhat different, its poison dmg but its also unresisted by anything, not urchaid (spider boss from last samhain) who had high poison resist nor necro's bound spirits who resist everything but divine dmg.
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#407
Ah haven't seen you trolling around the ranger forum lately with your biased opinion. Thought you had finally quit :cry: , but I was not saying that rangers and rogues should be equal but they are parallel classes like they are in most mmo class based games... I however do think that they should be comparable dps wise because they are both dps classes and if you read the original post both classes have parallel skills and an almost equal amount of support and damage skills. Does this mean that the ranger is a support class, of course not, because by that logic the rogue would be too. I am saying that the ranger and rogue should have their advantages and disadvantages against each other; a rogue with instacast burst dmg and a ranger with slower casting but equal if not more damage skills that would do better or equal or even slightly lesser then a rogue. And atm there is no such thing as a class role for ranger... Except bolas which to me seems only effective solo levelling which is already slow due to the broken damage skills we have as rangers because in most cases there is a tank or the rogue will win aggro completely defeating the purpose of bolas which can only be fixed if a ranger could gain aggro which would be the result of a higher damage output which would be fixed by making the damage skills we already have relevant in the current game thereby solving the inequality of the rogues and rangers who are disproportionate at the moment.
Rangers with a scaling ability to heal others, and the ability to attack from a range, should be able to compete in dps with rogues? :|
You obviously don't understand class roles
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#408
Ah haven't seen you trolling around the ranger forum lately with your biased opinion. Thought you had finally quit :cry: , but I was not saying that rangers and rogues should be equal but they are parallel classes like they are in most mmo class based games... I however do think that they should be comparable dps wise because they are both dps classes and if you read the original post both classes have parallel skills and an almost equal amount of support and damage skills. Does this mean that the ranger is a support class, of course not, because by that logic the rogue would be too. I am saying that the ranger and rogue should have their advantages and disadvantages against each other; a rogue with instacast burst dmg and a ranger with slower casting but equal if not more damage skills that would do better or equal or even slightly lesser then a rogue. And atm there is no such thing as a class role for ranger... Except bolas which to me seems only effective solo levelling which is already slow due to the broken damage skills we have as rangers because in most cases there is a tank or the rogue will win aggro completely defeating the purpose of bolas which can only be fixed if a ranger could gain aggro which would be the result of a higher damage output which would be fixed by making the damage skills we already have relevant in the current game thereby solving the inequality of the rogues and rangers who are disproportionate at the moment.
Rangers with a scaling ability to heal others, and are able to attack from a range, should be able to compete in dps with rogues? :|
You obviously don't understand class roles
Stop putting words into people's mouth.

We want our skills fixed, that is all. Go troll another section of the forum.
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#409
Stop putting words into people's mouth.
We want our skills fixed, that is all. Go troll another section of the forum.
I however do think that they should be comparable dps wise
a ranger with slower casting but equal if not more damage skills that would do better or equal or even slightly lesser then a rogue
Rangers with a scaling ability to heal others, and the ability to attack from a range, should be able to compete in dps with rogues? :|
Who's trolling?
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#410
Stop putting words into people's mouth.
We want our skills fixed, that is all. Go troll another section of the forum.
I however do think that they should be comparable dps wise
a ranger with slower casting but equal if not more damage skills that would do better or equal or even slightly lesser then a rogue
Rangers with a scaling ability to heal others, and the ability to attack from a range, should be able to compete in dps with rogues? :|
Who's trolling?
He said he thinks they should have you troll. He didn't say he wants it to happen.
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