Celtic Heroes

Im 100% against auction houses.

Heres what will happen if its released. Items will be easier to buy for those who don't take the time to search, which is fine.
But items will be harder to sell, because someone will almost always undercut you on a price.

This makes the game harder for the non plat players who really need the extra gold selling their items. And plat people can just buy stuff and not worry about the selling part, because they can always get more gold.

With an auction house items will gravitate toward a set market price, if people want to sell their items quickly they will auction it off for less than this price, then you can sweep in and grab the deal. The auction house makes it easier to merch, especially off of those plat buyers who dont care if they sell it for less. Not sure why you're against it as it can only greatly benefit the economy.

Market stablization would actually hurt merchants, it would make prices lower meaning little profit. I have experience with auction houses, trust me its not fun.

Less profit but with so much more transactions going on its more efficient, easier and safe. Sounds like you want to take advantage of players not knowing prices, set aside your selfish desires and look at the bigger picture.

Umm it's already said previously that we will be getting one just want to know if these plans are going to be implemented, and when, and if not so what's changed and to what.
Perhaps make a poll for it like you did about garanak although this I believe would be a preferred addition in the long run

That's the thing, you don't want an auction house because it cuts into your profits. Not wanting something implemented that the vast major do because of your virtual wealth is selfish.

The auction house is super convenient and keeps the cost of items at about a flat rate. You keep saying if people know where to go...aka go around hunting down a merchant. If we had an auction house they would know where to go.

I went through a merchant once and was charged a reasonable amount on an offhand and absolutely overcharged on a bracelet. Auction house would have made both items reasonably priced

Less profit but with so much more transactions going on its more efficient, easier and safe. Sounds like you want to take advantage of players not knowing prices, set aside your selfish desires and look at the bigger picture.

One thing you fools have to understand is how to play this game. With experience comes the knowledge of prices. If you don't know the value of some items well that's your fault. If you haven't looked around you, there are a ton of players from level 1 to 220 that will be looking to rip you off for all you have. what I mean is there are a lot of greedy people in this game. for you to target one single person and say hes greedy for being against an auction house is pretty messed up to say the least. you guys should respect someone else's opinion for not wanting an auction house. Just because you don't know the prices of items and get ripped off by someone doesn't mean you should accuse someone of being greedy for making an argument saying an auction house hurts merchants. Fury's argument is perfectly valid as players will try to undercut your valid price on a heroic ammy. this is not greed. greed is selling a heroic ammy for over 200k to a player that does not know any better. fact is you guys rightfully know players ditch lux cheap sometimes which cuts into profits. there are some people that rely on merching over buying plat. its a fact.

furthermore if you think you think your best friend, clan mates, etc, so called honest 200 player, don't rip people off think again. Look at garanak items. I'm a merchant and I always thought the prices of garaCRAP were absolutely ridiculous. I recently had someone offer to sell me a shrive ammy for 2 million. hmm seems quite a rip off to me. if you don't know the prices of an item that is your fault. take the time and learn the economy. i learned the economy through experience in buying and selling. I've never been ripped off because i am careful. if you need help ask a friend. there are a lot of shady dishonest merchants, which in my experience have been the higher leveled players; however there are also some honest ones too.

So Mysteryman..

You mentioned you were a merchant. If an auction house was put into ch, is it something you would use? I imagine merchants of the realms might have a love hate thing about it since yes, prices could take a hit for a variety of reasons, but do you prefer the convenience?

Not sure what any of what you said has anything got to do with an auction house, if anything you're arguing for it because now it will be easier to tell if you're getting ripped off. Information transparency in markets is a good thing.

That's the thing, you don't want an auction house because it cuts into your profits. Not wanting something implemented that the vast major do because of your virtual wealth is selfish.

The auction house is super convenient and keeps the cost of items at about a flat rate. You keep saying if people know where to go...aka go around hunting down a merchant. If we had an auction house they would know where to go.

I went through a merchant once and was charged a reasonable amount on an offhand and absolutely overcharged on a bracelet. Auction house would have made both items reasonably priced

Less profit but with so much more transactions going on its more efficient, easier and safe. Sounds like you want to take advantage of players not knowing prices, set aside your selfish desires and look at the bigger picture.

One thing you fools have to understand is how to play this game. With experience comes the knowledge of prices. If you don't know the value of some items well that's your fault. If you haven't looked around you, there are a ton of players from level 1 to 220 that will be looking to rip you off for all you have. what I mean is there are a lot of greedy people in this game. for you to target one single person and say hes greedy for being against an auction house is pretty messed up to say the least. you guys should respect someone else's opinion for not wanting an auction house. Just because you don't know the prices of items and get ripped off by someone doesn't mean you should accuse someone of being greedy for making an argument saying an auction house hurts merchants. Fury's argument is perfectly valid as players will try to undercut your valid price on a heroic ammy. this is not greed. greed is selling a heroic ammy for over 200k to a player that does not know any better. fact is you guys rightfully know players ditch lux cheap sometimes which cuts into profits. there are some people that rely on merching over buying plat. its a fact.

furthermore if you think you think your best friend, clan mates, etc, so called honest 200 player, don't rip people off think again. Look at garanak items. I'm a merchant and I always thought the prices of garaCRAP were absolutely ridiculous. I recently had someone offer to sell me a shrive ammy for 2 million. hmm seems quite a rip off to me. if you don't know the prices of an item that is your fault. take the time and learn the economy. i learned the economy through experience in buying and selling. I've never been ripped off because i am careful. if you need help ask a friend. there are a lot of shady dishonest merchants, which in my experience have been the higher leveled players; however there are also some honest ones too.

There's no reason to personally insult someone. And it was even more needless since my post wasn't even directed towards you. I wouldn't call you a fool so please have some respect in the manner in which you respond to me. I never called fury greedy. What I said was not wanting to have an auction house because it cuts into his profits when the vast majority of players want an auction house is selfish. Fury is a merchant and has stated he doesn't like the auction house because it will cut into the profits of merchants.

I can say someone's opinion on a specific topic is selfish without resorting to calling that person greedy or some other negative name tag.

I don't agree with Fury on everything and that's ok. I have no issues with Fury and I've complimented him on his advice that has often been helpful. But I don't agree with him on this topic. And that's ok. There's plenty of room for differing opinions without resorting to name calling.

So Mysteryman..

You mentioned you were a merchant. If an auction house was put into ch, is it something you would use? I imagine merchants of the realms might have a love hate thing about it since yes, prices could take a hit for a variety of reasons, but do you prefer the convenience?

an auction house would put items into the light that you wouldnt normally see selling. it would allow you to see items of those that are offline etc. it however would make buying wanted items harder since everyone would see the item rather than just a few knowing about it. when i see a rare item or something i want i dont waste anytime and try to buy it as fast as possible. the auction house would make it so others can outbid you. it would definitely make selling a greater challenge.

for convenience it doesnt really matter to me. ive gotten pretty good at selling through whispers and shouts.

where i stand on this? i am more against an auction house.

You say it will make others outbid you then that selling will be harder...lol. Anyway, no point debating it since admins have confirmed it is coming and this thread has been massively derailed.

So Mysteryman..

You mentioned you were a merchant. If an auction house was put into ch, is it something you would use? I imagine merchants of the realms might have a love hate thing about it since yes, prices could take a hit for a variety of reasons, but do you prefer the convenience?

an auction house would put items into the light that you wouldnt normally see selling. it would allow you to see items of those that are offline etc. it however would make buying wanted items harder since everyone would see the item rather than just a few knowing about it. when i see a rare item or something i want i dont waste anytime and try to buy it as fast as possible. the auction house would make it so others can outbid you. it would definitely make selling a greater challenge.

for convenience it doesnt really matter to me. ive gotten pretty good at selling through whispers and shouts.

where i stand on this? i am more against an auction house.

Stop being a selfish little brat, this will help everyone who dosent want to get ripped of by merchants

That's the thing, you don't want an auction house because it cuts into your profits. Not wanting something implemented that the vast major do because of your virtual wealth is selfish.

The auction house is super convenient and keeps the cost of items at about a flat rate. You keep saying if people know where to go...aka go around hunting down a merchant. If we had an auction house they would know where to go.

I went through a merchant once and was charged a reasonable amount on an offhand and absolutely overcharged on a bracelet. Auction house would have made both items reasonably priced

Less profit but with so much more transactions going on its more efficient, easier and safe. Sounds like you want to take advantage of players not knowing prices, set aside your selfish desires and look at the bigger picture.

One thing you fools have to understand is how to play this game. With experience comes the knowledge of prices. If you don't know the value of some items well that's your fault. If you haven't looked around you, there are a ton of players from level 1 to 220 that will be looking to rip you off for all you have. what I mean is there are a lot of greedy people in this game. for you to target one single person and say hes greedy for being against an auction house is pretty messed up to say the least. you guys should respect someone else's opinion for not wanting an auction house. Just because you don't know the prices of items and get ripped off by someone doesn't mean you should accuse someone of being greedy for making an argument saying an auction house hurts merchants. Fury's argument is perfectly valid as players will try to undercut your valid price on a heroic ammy. this is not greed. greed is selling a heroic ammy for over 200k to a player that does not know any better. fact is you guys rightfully know players ditch lux cheap sometimes which cuts into profits. there are some people that rely on merching over buying plat. its a fact.

furthermore if you think you think your best friend, clan mates, etc, so called honest 200 player, don't rip people off think again. Look at garanak items. I'm a merchant and I always thought the prices of garaCRAP were absolutely ridiculous. I recently had someone offer to sell me a shrive ammy for 2 million. hmm seems quite a rip off to me. if you don't know the prices of an item that is your fault. take the time and learn the economy. i learned the economy through experience in buying and selling. I've never been ripped off because i am careful. if you need help ask a friend. there are a lot of shady dishonest merchants, which in my experience have been the higher leveled players; however there are also some honest ones too.

Gara isn't crap it's still some of the best items on the market even being so old, the fact that you have to personally ATTACK people to get your point across is sad, you and your brother are selfish rip off who care more about profits than helping people, stop trying to curb this games advancement because it will slash your profits because people won't have to come to your rip off prices anymore

Gara isn't crap it's still some of the best items on the market even being so old, the fact that you have to personally ATTACK people to get your point across is sad, you and your brother are selfish rip off who care more about profits than helping people, stop trying to curb this games advancement because it will slash your profits because people won't have to come to your rip off prices anymore

Garanak is a ripoff, period. On that topic reaper rings and camo charms are too. But back to this, you have no idea who i am, to generalize all merchants are rip offs is a pretty bold thing to do. If you really wanna know i buy cheap things and sell them for a fair price, for rarer items i may ask a little extra because they are hard to find. I also stay away from the evil that is dicing. I AM A FAIR MERCHANT, period.
But to your last bit. I have all i could already ask for, i do not need any more profits, and i cant even play. I am speaking for the people whos living this is.
But if you think ripping off isnt possible with a auction house, youd be wrong. People could list a rare item for a high price when none other of that item is there, and people would buy it.