Celtic Heroes

Be man enough to admit mistakes and take responsibility for your actions.

For someone who exists as a level 7 rogue in morrigan you seem to think you know a lot. Stop trying to make replies to this post talking about respect, hypocrisy and being "man enough" if you hide behind a fake forums account making false claims.

lmao, Observer is a level 7 rogue? This guy who issued an arena challenge? Damn, your in game character is an anonymous coward too.

Haha, such little minds. I will say Aileron, you summed it up perfectly. If an individual in ava intentionally creates problems, then all of Ava is responsible. So when do you plan to atone for all of the mistakes of your players over the years? A clan is only as good as its leader. Therefor, if ava incorporates tactics that prevent players for any fair gameplay, what does that say about you? Seems pride and stupidity are valued greater than truth. The point of everything in this thread is totally lost upon you. You expect clans to take responsibility for every individual, yet you refuse to take responsibility for the actions of your own clan members. That's not being a man or a leader. Sounds a bit hypocritical and immature. Alas, I would expect nothing more from you though old friend. I do hope one day the point of this will sink in, but I fear it never will. I will continue to observe, as I have for ages. For now, I bid you farewell. One simply can not expect a closed mind to accept truth. The years have not changed you at all. It is still like talking to a wall. Perhaps in another year or two, we shall try to see if truth has enlightened you, or if you wish to take responsibility for the actions of your people? I do not foresee that as the years have not changed you. Such a pity. Fare thee well old friend. We will talk again, in a few more years.

We have never griefed a Mordris raid until yesterday. Havoc started the Mordris griefing in this server. That's the plain simple truth.

Your wrong again there Im afraid Aileron like I said perhaps you need to take a harder look at your clan, and you werent there to observe it being done to us,but this hasnt been my point!

Toastie -- you have been a clan chief for years. Even though you aren't current chief of Havoc, you are amongst its leaders. It is plain obvious that one of your members did. If he was alone with no other Havoc around (just like before when some of you came to watch and would accidentally unfreeze the priestess, we didn't consider it griefing as long as we hear an apology and no further actions were done). But you guys LOST THE LOCK. AND THEN ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS killed our druids by intentionally dragging trolls. Even though nothing was going on your clan chat about it is irrelevant. Whether it was an order given or an individual acting on his own, YOUR CLAN WAS THERE. ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS GRIEFED, and by association, YOUR CLAN WAS INVOLVED in the griefing.

We can agree to disagree. But next time one of your clannies grief again, you know where we stand.

Yes I dont disagree with this.



Now what I originally disagreed with is what you quoted that Havoc planned to as a clan disrupt your raid as you mentioned in a previous post.

And now comes the name calling the accusations of crying when all I am doing is expressing a point.
I think I have made myself pretty clear I will not resort to name calling or criticising opposition chiefs for how they supposedly run their clan.
Although I am very amused that an opposition clan would actually know what goes on in anothers clan.

Again every time someone has an opposing view to an Avalon member or chief they are then to be chastised on forums.
So Ill leave you to it. I made my points. You can choose to hate away if you see fit.

I wish no one ill will after all its a game.

Happy hunting.

I think they need to lock this topic down as hate flows through it......

We have never griefed a Mordris raid until yesterday. Havoc started the Mordris griefing in this server. That's the plain simple truth.

Your wrong again there Im afraid Aileron like I said perhaps you need to take a harder look at your clan, and you werent there to observe it being done to us,but this hasnt been my point!

How many times has Havoc done Mordris? I'm there to witness all your attempts and we all let you be and the only time I wasn't there was when you guys first killed her, and I was assured and that there were no interference on our part.

So please name a Mordris raid when we intentionally unfreeze Priestess or tried to kill your druids via Trolls before yesterday. Pretty sure we won a lock battle at least once or twice when you guys first started the encounter. I hope you don't consider that griefing. Maybe you can accuse us of kill-stealing but not griefing.

Lol ofc we don't consider out locking griefing. I am not going to single out individuals of ur clan.What would be the point of doing this?

Watching both clans from afar, I have to respect havoc. They at least help out other clans and players, and they don't ask anything in return.

Ohhhh I know who you are now! This gave it away, I should have known from the start.

Now what I originally disagreed with is what you quoted that Havoc planned to as a clan disrupt your raid as you mentioned in a previous post.

Toastie, you have got to stop reading stuff that isnt there. I have never accused Havoc of planning to grief. It merely happened. But it happened.

And your continuous insistence that what your clanmate did is okay and should be ignored by us because it's not sanctioned by Havoc leadership is just crazy.

Umm never said it was ok. In fact I called him an idiot in clan chat when it happened. Your clan isn't innocent as you claim it to be. Perhaps you should ask your clannies to come forward to you if they have pulled mobs on us at mordi during times u were not there. If they have any respect for you they will.