Celtic Heroes

Well I love swarm.

Soloing in tower sucks for druid but you're not reliant on groups.

I love swarm too, for bosses. Not for leveling. And on bosses, now that other druids have a 50 points swarm, yours is gonna be useless half the time if other dps druids are present

Well I love it for leveling and bosses so take that! Muahahaha

Well it's the same issue if you have more than one dps warrior. The best fix would be for all skills to stack. 3 druids with maxed vines on mgc lure would be sweet

Well i think us druids should get Nature attune (pls otm).
I am actually lvl 200 on morigan and i have been lvling a lot at 200 pit(with a mage and her lure of magic) where the lvl 200 edl boss spawn.
And let me tell you guys something , i lvl with warriors , rangers and mages but i do get kill 90% of the time. I am not trying to boast or anything but i can outdps rangers , mages and warriors but outdpsing rogues is just too hard for during short fights. But i did outdps Rogues on longer boss fights and some mages lvl 215++
Just to say that us druids are not that ''underpowered''.
With lures of magic , my bees hit around 1k(doesnt change), vines hit : 1.7-3k, wyldshrine ammy dot skill hit : 1-1.8k,ls :2k-4.4k, storm:3.3-6.4k
My stats are : Str : 5 , dex : 5(155 with event ammy) , focus : 815(1601) , vit : 200
My skills are : vines : 48/40, bees : 46/40, Lightning : 50/40, Storm : 46/40, Howling Wind : 40/40, nature touch :21/40
I should mention that i have 800 defence
the only problem reside in our skills energy cost

My only issue with this attunement I'd now we have another skill to throw points into which are already spread thin.

I am not trying to make you feel bad, just pointing out some major errors that you made. Swarm can not possibly hit 1.7k; not even close. With your level and build, I doubt it is even getting to 1k. I don't even know why you'd be using it for training anyways, since it's a waste of skill points. Good for bosses, bad for leveling for multiple reasons. Noone said that druids are under powered for group leveling. OP said druids are underpowered in general. They're trash for soloing, and trash for dpsing on almost every boss, and that is what I and many high level (emphasis on word high) druids think need to be tweaked. I am not talking about otherworld, so why do you mention level 90-120 soloing in your "counter argument"? How often are you trying to ffa on hrungnir, mordris, or edl bosses and coming out with kills? Never. And that is why the high (emphasis on word high) levels are complaining. Training a druid is the hardest class to get to endgame. You are completely reliant on finding groups because you absolutely can not solo effectively in tower. And if you're doing that much more work than other classes, isn't it fair to expect to be rewarded? A level 220 druid with godly gear has worse dps than a 180 rogue, even though it took 10 times longer (and 10 times the lix) to get to that level.

Your turn, tell us how overpowered druids are

Never did I mention druids being overpowered, in fact it'd be awesome to have a buff - stop making assumptions. My swarms hits 1k no problem and my build is awesome, I'm out dpsing the Rangers, rogues and mages I level with almost every kill because vines and swarms are such great DOTs. Again, I am NOT an end game druid, and I had mentioned in my previous post that I've solo leveled on some occasions leading up to my level today - not just 90-120.

I'm 183 so I'm not dpsing on EDL or hrung I'm healing like a good druid no matter how good my build is I wouldn't expect a 183 druid to out dps a 216 rogue on EDL shm.

There is a level 222 druid named Aceboy99 on my server who solo leveled in tower and never complained.

Read things properly before you decide to throw back an argument and make a fool of yourself.

Hmmm...I'd like a screen shot of your swarm hitting 1k on a 3* mob and 4* mob your level and up to 3 levels higher.

I'd also be curious to see these rogues and mages you're outdpsing on a regular basis.

Druids are great dps for training, when they are in a group. But a full dps druid is absolutely not soloing in tower. And a druid built to solo (bark, winds/root) is not outdpsing solo-train built rogues rangers warriors or mages. Of course druids are capable of outdpsing worse geared toons on a few select bosses. If you look at any raid boss, you don't have much of a chance. Viviane, I didn't say druids suck or are completely underpowered; there's just no denying that they need a buff in order to have competitive dps at a high level. I notice that your dot skills are below 50...you do realize that if any other high level dps came along with maxed vines and swarm you're doing about 1/4 of your normal dps right? aka less dps than a tank using an offhand shield and no str. The fact that dps druids are gimped when more than one is present is a major contributor to their mediocre bossing capabilities.

Minoru, look at the title of the thread you're commenting on. Now go back and look at your posts. Basically, any otm member looking through this thread will assume "ah, this druid seems to have no trouble; I guess the other high levels are just wrong and druids don't need a buff". Tysm. Your swarm hits 1k no problem in tower? What a joke. That's probably close to your max swarm dmg, and mobs in tower resist poison dmg. There's no way you're hitting 1k more than half the time, and zero chance you're hitting 1.7k as u stated before (unless you have a 5k focus offhand?). You wrote down below that you're healing like a good druid. Why do druids need to carry the expectation that they're only healers? If a mage doesn't carry freeze and assassin lure you won't get yelled at, so why shouldn't u be able to be a non naturetouch druid? You look at all these rogues and rangers who have written in their sig "__killed a necromancer" or "__killed a mordris". How come you've never seen a druid with a sig like that?

Actually there has been a druid get the kill on mord and several times on aggy.

A full dps druid can solo just fine in the tower. It sucks but it can be done. I've had quite a few levels of eating 25 to 30 lix per level but it is soloable. Well I shouldn't say a full dps because I'm using fire ward at least with all the stupid mages in there doing fire dmg.

25-30 lix a level is quite terrible, wouldn't you say? With the money you're spending on that it would almost be reasonable to use that plat to buy another device and level a rogue to your druid's level to duo them. Kidding, but actually reasonable lol

How long ago was the mordris kill? Early carrow before all the rogues and rangers had dl offhands? I had 3 hrungnir kills over a short period but I think two were root kills, so that's kinda cheating lol. Plus a dozen aggy kills, and a few snorri/sreng main during last summer. If it was post tower then that's impressive. But regardless of which, I guarantee you that if a second dps druid was there (with equal or greater swarm/vines) then neither druid would've gotten kill. That is what sucks about being a dps druid and I don't think anyone can deny that statement