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Re: True or no?

#12
Err...no? How come there are so many rangers with "killed a mordris/necromancer" signatures then? lol. For a rogue and ranger with the same gear, a rogue wins easily up to 200. But for higher levels with edl bows and quivers vs dagger and rondel, rangers can have an edge for longer fights because a) rondels don't stack whereas quivers do and b) a dagger is way below speed cap on haste lix, and an edl bow is basically right there too. So the ranger has the same auto speed as a rogue but with way higher damage. Look at runandsteal or dem0n's stats, among others. 4k+ dmg and 9k+ attack is tough to beat. Of course there are many worlds where only rogues get kills, but there are a couple rangers that are virtually unbeatable on many bosses. Especially those with good necro rings
Yea I wish I had their stats.

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Re: True or no?

#13
I really don't understand your thoughts that all rogues are greedy and just want kills. Maybe it's just my server but it usually our rogues and one or two rangers running adds, I don't see how this is greedy.

Also I don't care if other classes get a buff in dps to be close or the same or heck even a little bit better than rogues as long as it makes sense. All that it means is at at the end of the day all bosses will die faster. I agree all classes should have an insta cast skill so I'm extremely happy about that. I think that rangers skills need a big fix so I'm happy with the steps that OTM has been taking even if it hasn't made a big affect yet. I think warriors need a slight dps boost hey pummel was made insta I'm happy about that as well.

You act as tho all that rogues care about is who gets kills. If we did you would see posts everywhere about the new insta cast skills and other changes made to classes. As long as rogues dps doesn't get nerfed again like in tower with poison resists I'm all for the changes.
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Re: True or no?

#14
I play Ranger on Android. Used to play rogue on IOS. A rogue can out DPS a Ranger with EASE. In fact, so can a warrior and a mage.
A full edl ranger in my clan with edl bow and quiver sometimes outhits me and a couple other top rogues that normally get kills. It depends on if we get a good rondel rotation in as well as a bit of luck factor but he is definitely capable of outdpsing us on bosses.

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Re: True or no?

#15
Err...no? How come there are so many rangers with "killed a mordris/necromancer" signatures then? lol. For a rogue and ranger with the same gear, a rogue wins easily up to 200. But for higher levels with edl bows and quivers vs dagger and rondel, rangers can have an edge for longer fights because a) rondels don't stack whereas quivers do and b) a dagger is way below speed cap on haste lix, and an edl bow is basically right there too. So the ranger has the same auto speed as a rogue but with way higher damage. Look at runandsteal or dem0n's stats, among others. 4k+ dmg and 9k+ attack is tough to beat. Of course there are many worlds where only rogues get kills, but there are a couple rangers that are virtually unbeatable on many bosses. Especially those with good necro rings
Cuz they got lock luckily. It's a ranger sig bcuz it's cool they got a kill as a ranger. Admittely ranger can solo bosses with ease, but when there's a raid boss with a tank and much dps, expect the rogue to get it
Getting lock doesn't have anything to do with the kill. About 2 weeks ago our rangers got lock on necro and I ended up getting the kill.

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Re: True or no?

#16
Rangers get kills on bosses cuz all we have to do is afk auto... rogues usually spam skills, which miss quite a bit on bosses.
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Re: True or no?

#17
The person who usually gets the kill generally didn't kill many adds (most of the time, not all of the time).

On my world I got almost every kill for awhile but I was the first DPS class to get the EDL offhand and they are very overpowered, also admitedly I don't kill adds very often. Now an active well geared (similiar gear to mine) rogue has the EDL rondel its 50/50 chance but in my opinion it depends on how many rondels are at the kill. Rogues offhand skill has a 45 second recast time and rangers have a 90 second recast time. If rogues keep overlapping themselves a ranger will probably get the kill but if theres 1 rogue using their skill and it's not interrupted it's the rogues kill without a doubt

I'm probably only the second best ranger on the server also. LeGenDzZ would get the kills if he tried to but he doesn't really care about it. A few times on Necro and Mordris raids while he was using a DL quiver and I was using an EDL quiver he would still get the kill so I'm nothing special :lol:
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Re: True or no?

#18
Ranger are actually very good if great gear.. I'd rate them over mages pure dps wise on mord/necro
Cause mages are trash on mord/necro :cry:
Resistances on raid bosses are really high and mages don't have poison or divine damage(unless they auto) Rangers and rogues are pounding the boss with their hasted 1.1 second autos with a lot of divine damage so I imagine that would make it hard for mages to outdps them. Not impossible though ;)
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Re: True or no?

#20
Well...it's hard to outdps anyone when your skills are doing 1/10 max damage like they do on lured carrow bosses lol. 185/195/200e/aggy are different stories though. Personally I don't like how otm designed bosses so that on some of them mages get kill 95% of the time. And on others they get kill 0% of the time
The major flaw is that in many games you can change gear around for each boss to hit its weakness, in this game we don't have those kind of options so it's basically if you happen to have the wrong class then OTM nerfed your damage on that boss forever.

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