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Re: Future for rangers

#91
This isn't a game where OTM can fix only one class and the rest then lose ground. OTM can fix everyone.

Ranger skills need a serious revamp/buff as of all 5 classes they are the most broken. All of them are dex based yet by far the most viable high dps build is going mostly str and relying on autos.

The thing rogues have is instant damage. Using ss then qs you can do decent damage before a ranger can use a single skill or get off a single auto. Buffing the damage on skills isn't giving rangers instant skills. You want to complain, complain about the ammy that gives a 4k shadowstrike like skill to any class.

Try competing against a rogue when leveling for mobs. Even 4 and many 5* boss ph are instant locked by a group of rogues and camping bosses is mostly what this game is about. That is likely why ss was nerfed and 4000 instant damage ammys released.
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Re: Future for rangers

#92
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Rogues got a ss, why cant rangers? Is doing damage rogue exclusive? while it isnt fair that rogues got such a harsh nerf, it doesnt mean other classes cant get buffs anymore. It means rogues now need a buff along with the other classes. Do you really feel that all classes in game are complete the way they are and dont need skill additions? :o
Maybe a ignore armour skill is too much, but that doesnt mean a buff wont be helpful.
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Re: Future for rangers

#93
This isn't a game where OTM can fix only one class and the rest then lose ground. OTM can fix everyone.

Ranger skills need a serious revamp/buff as of all 5 classes they are the most broken. All of them are dex based yet by far the most viable high dps build is going mostly str and relying on autos.

The thing rogues have is instant damage. Using ss then qs you can do decent damage before a ranger can use a single skill or get off a single auto. Buffing the damage on skills isn't giving rangers instant skills. You want to complain, complain about the ammy that gives a 4k shadowstrike like skill to any class.

Try competing against a rogue when leveling for mobs. Even 4 and many 5* boss ph are instant locked by a group of rogues and camping bosses is mostly what this game is about. That is likely why ss was nerfed and 4000 instant damage ammys released.
If i understood correctly, these 4k insta damage ammys are already nerfed by being peircing damage, and they are only usable for close range, making them conveniant only for rogues and warriors. Seems more like a second ss for rogues more then a catch up for other classes like rangers. If i misunderstood how the 4k ammy works, sorry :?
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Re: Future for rangers

#94
If i understood correctly, these 4k insta damage ammys are already nerfed by being peircing damage, and they are only usable for close range, making them conveniant only for rogues and warriors. Seems more like a second ss for rogues more then a catch up for other classes like rangers. If i misunderstood how the 4k ammy works, sorry
That's exactly how it works, and that makes it great for rogues. Shadowstrike, ammy skill, quickstrike, sneaky. Get enough rogues doing that and you can instantly lock any boss. It's like a second shadowstrike. It is not a catch up for rangers, because it works at close range.
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Re: Future for rangers

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If i understood correctly, these 4k insta damage ammys are already nerfed by being peircing damage, and they are only usable for close range, making them conveniant only for rogues and warriors. Seems more like a second ss for rogues more then a catch up for other classes like rangers. If i misunderstood how the 4k ammy works, sorry
That's exactly how it works, and that makes it great for rogues. Shadowstrike, ammy skill, quickstrike, sneaky. Get enough rogues doing that and you can instantly lock any boss. It's like a second shadowstrike. It is not a catch up for rangers, because it works at close range.
Only rogues have instant damage this ammy allows any class to have instant damage.

Yes it helps all classes but for bosses you simply stand close to the spawn.

And yes it dosent teleport you but pierce isn't a bad damage type and you can lock mobs with it. As an instant skill it is basically giving a rogue like skill to anyone. Not all rogues have the ammy, most well equipped ones prefer/have other gear.
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Re: Future for rangers

#96
Only rogues have instant damage
This will change after the update. But only rogues will still have instant unresistable damage.
this ammy allows any class to have instant damage.
true, but it's nothing compared to shadow strike
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Re: Future for rangers

#97
Only rogues have instant damage
This will change after the update. But only rogues will still have instant unresistable damage.
this ammy allows any class to have instant damage.
true, but it's nothing compared to shadow strike
With tower rogues don't even have unresisted damage.
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Re: Future for rangers

#98
The guy that posted about the str rangers getting their head out of their asses..........YAY SOMEONE I FINALLY AGREE WITH.

Its because of this that 99% of the ranger population has ststs like this:

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10

And all they do is click one button and go afk during fights. Add to it they are *usually** the lowest IQ people to boot and omfg, what a party in your own pants.

Re: Future for rangers

#99
The guy that posted about the str rangers getting their head out of their asses..........YAY SOMEONE I FINALLY AGREE WITH.

Its because of this that 99% of the ranger population has ststs like this:

1400
150
10
10

And all they do is click one button and go afk during fights. Add to it they are *usually** the lowest IQ people to boot and omfg, what a party in your own pants.
It's not really this it's that when you go all dex with great gear your dps is Lower to about the same as above. It takes incredible gear to get better dps with skills.
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Re: Future for rangers

#100
I agree with almost everyone.


He main problem is the dex skills do nothing. Incorporating str skills will not fix anything, just make it worse.

Auto-attack should be around to "fill in" the time when you have nothing else to do. It shouldnt be a ones main component of damage.

Thats where i have a problem. Afking auto attacks should not be even close in dmg to someonw using skills, a crapload of energy, and paying attention. Making str based skills is just promoting more of the same. If most people testify to str builds (auto ) being better , how does that equate to giving them skills too?

i have no prob with (i even support)the creation of str based skills, but not until the dex ones are actually useful.

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