Celtic Heroes

Soviet, the ranger to accidentally pulled trolls that stomped house. And Bdrules has pic of hinta pulling when no one else was their so what lock? I'll see if i can locate his tit for tat pic, don't forget that your members are Ksing ours while they are lixed in 210 pit (I think it's 210 pit) so... Ava 2 havoc . (Mine was accident so....)

Ail. Your comparison to us vs the kkk is a bit flawed. Those types of organizations have a specified agenda which many people do not agree with. Those who join those organizations know that going in and knowingly accept the stigma associated with said group. This groups negative preceptions are based on society as a whole and not by the opinion of one.

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Soviet, the ranger to accidentally pulled trolls that stomped house. And Bdrules has pic of hinta pulling when no one else was their so what lock? I'll see if i can locate his tit for tat pic, don't forget that your members are Ksing ours while they are lixed in 210 pit (I think it's 210 pit) so... Ava 2 havoc . (Mine was accident so....)

it wasn't you that pulled the trolls intentionally on us. Ask Seela or Juggernaut, they know who it was.

People do not own a room. You can't claim all the mobs are yours just because you are lixing in a particular area. There is no KS when there is target lock. When two clans are fighting over an area, it is not KSing. Get your facts straight. Pretty sure Havoc reported us for KSing, that's what y'all do when you guys can't compete. Call OTM to get us suspended. Just like what ZA did.

Ail. If I see an Ava leveling in an a area I do not level there such as the case yesterday when I logged, lixxed, and abracadabra was leveling in the same spot. I realized he was there and I logged to save my Liz and level another time. I feel that is the right thing to do. It just seems you believe what you think is right is the law of the land and everyone should comply when, actually, there may be a better way to do things.

Ail. If I see an Ava leveling in an a area I do not level there such as the case yesterday when I logged, lixxed, and abracadabra was leveling in the same spot. I realized he was there and I logged to save my Liz and level another time. I feel that is the right thing to do. It just seems you believe what you think is right is the law of the land and everyone should comply when, actually, there may be a better way to do things.

I do the same. If i see people in an area, i leave or go somewhere else and come back when its empty. but that doesnt mean eveyone does it and there is no law that you cant go play in the same room as someone else.

But if someone comes into the room im playing in and start fighting some mobs, I certainly wont accuse them of KSing like what your clan is doing, and reporting us to OTM boot.

We were informed by one of your clan mates how your chat is full of discussion on devious ways to get us to say something bad to get us banned. Havoc has a negative agenda other than to play the game fairly and honorably. Take off your blindfolds man.

Hello, DDB

I agree with what you say in terms of one Apple spoiling the bunch. It is generally unfair to group people by the actions of a few. I think the bigger problem is that from what I have experienced personally and have heard others experience this does not apply. No naming and shaming, but this thread contains some Avalon members for actions deemed inappropriate. The amount of the other clans members who have been playing foul is staggering. So I'm not sayin a few bad members create the bad rep, I'm saying a good deal of members do that. Boss lock loss leading to mob drags, spamming trade reqs at skain spawns. Recently a member of your clan and I got into a tiff from a lixing area conflict. Two times I had done what you mentioned, either logged or stood by waiting for their lix to end and see if they'd be done. When the room was vacant i had begun to indulge but unbeknownst to me, this person had only been out of the room in the adjacent hallway. So they decided to make a problem out of it. Now I don't cause trouble and by cause I mean start it, but don't think for a moment I won't allow someone to walk all over me. I think it is a long lasting hate for Avalon that is infectious and leads to other members jumping on board.

@Soviet

Who are you and what's your in game name?

What were you referring to, when bd complained he got hit by Emberdrake adds in last event?
I don't know what you consider griefing. Let me explain. When two clans are fighting for lock on a boss, it's a free for all, and no one can complain about pulling or dragging or whatever tricks you have to gain advantage and win the lock.
But when a clan gets the lock, that means they've won. The honorable and sportsmanlike thing to do for the losing clan is to back off and wait and watch if the other clan will wipe. Not drag more mobs or interfere with the battle for purposes of killing players or making the encounter more difficult.

We did grief Havoc on Mordris. That was a retaliation when Havoc did it to us first. When a Havoc member dragged and killed us at the Emberdrake spot, Seela said that was a retaliation too. So, ok we called everything even and counter is reset. (Right Seela?)

...and then yesterday happened. That means Havoc 2, Avalon 0 in the boss griefing count. Expect us to even it at some point.

Soviet (170)?
lame ranger if im right, sorry for involving but the gangster statement made me laugh so hard MR Ail wish forum had a like button,
~Exec~

I do not care about Havoc or Avalon. I am sure both sides have good and bad players. I simply watch and as the name implies, observe. On many occasions I have seen Ava go into a room and lix over other people and interfere with lixes but not only that, I have seen Ava deliberately interfere with lixes. Is there a reason that a level 225 Ava ranger felt the need to follow around a level 171 havoc warrior that was lixed and kill mobs that he was lixing on? If you stand outside of a room when these two clans are fighting for a boss, it amazes me how Ava antagonizes and outright tries to bully other clans. Ava has even stated on many occasions that they will do everything to prevent other clans from obtaining any end boss gear. So is this the fair and honorable gameplay that aileron speaks of? Perhaps havoc and Avalon should do what top clans do on other servers, and share bosses. I do not see that happening. By ailerons own admission he states that boss dragging is ok at a boss, as is lixing over players. I like to keep records of events. These records include an extensive video library of Avalon intimidating, bullying, lixing over and outright offensive behavior in game towards not only havoc but other clans and players. I do not feel a need to share these with anyone, but yet I find the hypocrisy of Avalon to be quite amusing.

You observe poorly. There isnt a single 225 ranger in avalon.